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03-18-2011, 07:34 AM
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I recently bought a 1991 MIJ 51P RI. Of course it has the vintage-style truss rod adjustment located at the neck pocket, so the neck must be removed to adjust it.
Any tips or tricks to make this chore a bit easier?
I am comfortable performing basic setups, just trying to ease the PITA factor. I'm thinking about taping or otherwise immobilzing the strings near the nut so I don't have to rewind the strings on the posts... | 
03-18-2011, 08:46 AM
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03-18-2011, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by mongo2 Remove the pickguard. | ok, but should I take it out of the bag first?
I managed to, after loosening the strings just to slack, loosen the neck screws enough to get a tool (no offense) on the truss rod nut.
no big whup, but now I understand why MusicMan makes such a noise about their slick little truss rod wheel. | 
03-18-2011, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Ben Clarke ok, but should I take it out of the bag first?  | Turn off our smartazz switch. My SCPB has a channel routed to facilitate trussrod adjustment under the pickguard. I thought your's might too.
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03-18-2011, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by mongo2 Turn off our smartazz switch. My SCPB has a channel routed to facilitate trussrod adjustment under the pickguard. I thought your's might too. | turn off your trite presumptive advice switch. It's obvious the guard's gotta come off no matter what. | 
03-18-2011, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Ben Clarke turn off your trite presumptive advice switch. It's obvious the guard's gotta come off no matter what. | Actually it is not. Many guitars cross the bench with telltale marks in the pickguard at the truss rod opening. This is true of vintage Fender bass designs as well as Fender six string guitars.And many pro's would never consider removing the pickguard to make a simple truss rod adjustment.
Consider that the design is the same for a Strat. The pickups are mounted in the pickguard. It is obvious that removing the pickguard assembly is not a prescribed method for performing this service.
One last thing: Respect is the hallmark and number one protocol of the H,S,&R forum.
Respectfully submitted.
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03-18-2011, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Ben Clarke turn off your trite presumptive advice switch. It's obvious the guard's gotta come off no matter what. | Not always. You asked for tips to make it easier and you got one. For that you return BS. Real smooth.
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03-18-2011, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by mongo2 Not always. You asked for tips to make it easier and you got one. For that you return BS. Real smooth. | a cursory perusal of your past posts tells me not to take any of this personally. respect, indeed... | 
03-18-2011, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Ben Clarke a cursory perusal of your past posts tells me not to take any of this personally. respect, indeed... | LOL. No need for me to peruse your past posts, you've shown your true self in this one thread. 
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03-18-2011, 02:36 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Olney, Maryland | | | I loosen the strings, remove the neck bolts and with it near the edge of my bench, tilt the neck back and make the adjustment.
Reassemble and tune.
APTA in a way, but after decades of fenders it has become a pretty smooth operation.
I’m a cranky old guy and I knew it was a joke.
MM | 
03-18-2011, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by metalmariachi I loosen the strings, remove the neck bolts and with it near the edge of my bench, tilt the neck back and make the adjustment.
Reassemble and tune.
APTA in a way, but after decades of fenders it has become a pretty smooth operation.
I’m a cranky old guy and I knew it was a joke.
MM | That's where I ended up - I didn't realize before getting into it that the neck screws would be long enough that they wouldn't need to be completely removed. I was picturing it to be more of a cluster with the neck off completely (not that that would be so traumatic for me either).
Thanks for seeing the humor intended.
I'm currently appreciating the irony that someone takes great pains to edit multiple posts to criticize me but could only muster 3 scant words to help.
enough... thanks for the tip, MM. | 
03-18-2011, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Ben Clarke I'm currently appreciating the irony that someone takes great pains to edit multiple posts to criticize me but could only muster 3 scant words to help. | Your initial wiseguy retort set the mood for your thread. You have no one to blame but yourself.
As I already explained, those three words could have been all you needed. What part of that explanation didn't you understand? I'll try to clarify it for you.
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03-18-2011, 04:08 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Western NY | | | It wasn't an explanation. I had already had the pg off to see if I could get a tool on the rod nut, but I couldn't. Maybe if you had bothered to complete your thought, I would have realized that there may have been some useful information (not for me due to the construction differences between our instruments, but at least I'd know where you're coming from), but you didn't. I took it to be condescension, so I tried to lighten the tone.
I tend to be a little condescening in real life, so maybe that's why I inferred what I did. You think I'm a wisazz jerk, sooo... hmmmmm.... whatever... | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | |
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