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Old 05-18-2011, 11:58 AM
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As a newbie I need some advice please. I can't seem to get my Peavey Millenium BXP in tune. I use a electronic tuner and it seem the stings are just a shade flat or sharp all the time, even with new stings. My question is if I can't get a perfect tune is it better to be a little on the flat or sharp side

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Old 05-18-2011, 12:05 PM
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If they're new strings, they're going to be more likely to do that until they wear in a bit.
Have you ever had the bass set up properly to fit what strings you use and your playing style, etc? That should help a lot. It's better to be in tune than b or #.
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Old 05-18-2011, 12:12 PM
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As a newbie I need some advice please. I can't seem to get my Peavey Millenium BXP in tune. I use a electronic tuner and it seem the stings are just a shade flat or sharp all the time, even with new stings. My question is if I can't get a perfect tune is it better to be a little on the flat or sharp side

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Let's start at the beginning....

New strings will "stretch out" for a few days, meaning after you get them into tune and play them for a while, you'll probably have to slightly re-tune them. After a few days the strings should have stretched and stabilized enough that your instrument should hold tune.

When tuning, make sure you turn the tuning knob so that the string goes flat, then slowly bring it up to tune. If you miss your mark, repeat the above procedure. It's best to tune your string "up" to the note... not "down" to the note.

When you get your strings in tune, play each note at the 12th fret and see what your tuner says. If the note isn't really, really close, your intonation is probably off, which is another exercise to go through.

Try the above tuning method and let us know how it went
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Old 05-18-2011, 12:31 PM
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so how much different would a set up for a bass with Ernie Ball strings be than one with Rotosound? Is it the string brand, or string gauge that the specific set up is done for?
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so how much different would a set up for a bass with Ernie Ball strings be than one with Rotosound? Is it the string brand, or string gauge that the specific set up is done for?
The short answer is that it's set up for gauge - brand doesn't mean too much.

The longer answer is that it's set up for your playing style and the string's tension. String tension is related to its gauge, but various string construction methods can lead to varying tension and flexibility throughout different brands that produce the same gauge of strings. So even switching between the two brands will require some check in intonation.
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Old 05-18-2011, 01:29 PM
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The short answer is that it's set up for gauge - brand doesn't mean too much.

The longer answer is that it's set up for your playing style and the string's tension. String tension is related to its gauge, but various string construction methods can lead to varying tension and flexibility throughout different brands that produce the same gauge of strings. So even switching between the two brands will require some check in intonation.
hmm...interesting to know.
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Old 05-18-2011, 01:34 PM
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Let's start at the beginning....

New strings will "stretch out" for a few days, meaning after you get them into tune and play them for a while, you'll probably have to slightly re-tune them. After a few days the strings should have stretched and stabilized enough that your instrument should hold tune.

When tuning, make sure you turn the tuning knob so that the string goes flat, then slowly bring it up to tune. If you miss your mark, repeat the above procedure. It's best to tune your string "up" to the note... not "down" to the note.

When you get your strings in tune, play each note at the 12th fret and see what your tuner says. If the note isn't really, really close, your intonation is probably off, which is another exercise to go through.

Try the above tuning method and let us know how it went
Thanks. Intonation is the next thing I plan on learning to do
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First, make sure you've installed them properly.

Second, start below pitch and tune UP to pitch. Tuning down invites the string to slip.

Third, new strings won't hold accurate pitch very long. Live with it.

Fourth, don't worry about it. Unless you hear a problem, there is no problem. Tuners show tuning errors the human ear can't detect - so that amount of error does NOT matter.

Tune it and play it. If it sounds good, it is good.
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