Go Back   TalkBass Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > Hardware, Setup & Repair [BG]
Register Rules/FAQ/CUP Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read



Supporting Membership
Thank You

Latest Supporting Member
Donate to Upgrade Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 07-05-2010, 12:09 PM
JonnyAngle's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Shakopee, MN
Supporting Member
Tuning dancing

Sign in to disble this ad
I hit a note to tune it and the tuner says sharp, then flat after one second then sharp and slowly goes to the middle. It usually is 3 cents flat to 1 cent sharp, so it dances within 4 to 5 cents.

What causes this? It's really tough to tune! Only my E string does it.
  #2  
Old 07-05-2010, 12:15 PM
Supportive Fender
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Supporting Member
what kind of bass, what kind of tuner?
__________________
Walter Wright
Guitar Repair Gnome
Alpha Music, VA Beach
  #3  
Old 07-05-2010, 12:28 PM
JonnyAngle's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Shakopee, MN
Supporting Member
Musicman Sterling. It did it on my korg dtr1000 my arion pedal tuner and my handheld pocket tuners.
  #4  
Old 07-05-2010, 12:39 PM
Bassamatic's Avatar
keepin' the beat since the 60's
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Studio City, SoCal, USA
Send a message via Skype™ to Bassamatic
Supporting Member
I have noticed that a lot of strings go sharp when you first hit them and then settle in. Often for the E string I will use the octave harmonic for tuning - seems to be easier for tuners to grab it.
__________________
Growing OLD is inevitable, Growing UP is optional.
  #5  
Old 07-05-2010, 12:42 PM
fu22ba55's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Deaf
Supporting Member
Strings ring a few cents sharp when plucked (hard). You will not notice this effect as much with heavier-gauged strings. (I use a .110 E string since .105s always ring sharp for me when really digging in.)

You can decrease this effect by plucking closer to the brigde when tuning.
  #6  
Old 07-05-2010, 12:42 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Also make sure your cable is good and not moving around in the input jack. That used to cause the issue for me. Low battery in the tuner can also cause it.
  #7  
Old 07-05-2010, 01:10 PM
Jazz Ad's Avatar
I took the one less traveled by
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Reims, Champagne, France
GOLD Supporting Member
Typical case of nut being too tight. It need lubricated or enlarged.
You most likely use a higher jauge than the original that came on the bass.
  #8  
Old 07-05-2010, 01:16 PM
Registered User

Seymour Duncan/Basslines SMB-5A Endorsing Artist
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Cuernavaca 1 hr S Mexico City
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gio S View Post
I have noticed that a lot of strings go sharp when you first hit them and then settle in. Often for the E string I will use the octave harmonic for tuning - seems to be easier for tuners to grab it.
This^^^^
__________________
OFBPOAC #64
Ampeg Club #33
originator, The Ampeg SVT-3PRO has (enough) Balls Club
band's website http://www.haraganycompania.com.mx
band's MySpace http://mx.myspace.com/haraganycompania
  #9  
Old 07-05-2010, 09:10 PM
Rick Auricchio's Avatar
Registered Bass Offender
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Cambria, CA (Central Coast)
Supporting Member
+1
__________________
Larger avatar photo here.
My usual stock answers: No, Tuesday, 12
  #10  
Old 07-06-2010, 09:25 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
The needle on my tuner jumps around wildly sometimes, like if I have the pickups set too close to the strings or really whack the string too hard. There was also a brand of stainless steel roundwound strings I used to use, I think they were Warwicks, which did that and on some of the low fretted notes actually gave me a false reading, like when playing the G on the E string at the third fret it would read A on the tuner. Pretty wild. There must have been a lot of harmonics with those strings and not all of them very musical.

I still use the same fairly cheap tuner because it works but I'm playing Thomastic flats on all my basses now and have no problem with them. The tuner stays pretty stable and I don't get false readings.
  #11  
Old 07-06-2010, 11:02 AM
Registered User

Endorsing Artist: J.C. Basses
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Phoenix, Arizona 85029
Send a message via MSN to FunkMetalBass
Try plucking lightly near the bridge and rolling off your tone. The fewer overtones the tuner has to try to pick up, the less dancing it will do.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by McThumpenstein View Post
I don't think the wife would buy the "I need to take off this knob and put a whole new bass under it" story.
  #12  
Old 07-06-2010, 11:06 AM
JonnyAngle's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Shakopee, MN
Supporting Member
Yeah, plucing closer to the bridge makes a huge difference. I thought I was supposed to pluck the string as if I were playing it (to make sure it's in tune how I play).
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Follow TalkBass on Twitter   Visit TalkBass on Facebook  

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:56 AM.




Copyright 2011 Talk Music Group Inc. All rights reserved.
Play guitar? Visit our new sister site TalkGuitar.com [beta]
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.12
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.