Warwick nut

StreetSurfer · #1 11-26-2009, 03:50 PM

So I just recently got me a used 1999 Warwick Corvette Standard 5 string. And the nut seems really cheap. This wasn't surprising because I had researched them prior to buying, but I'm considering replacing it in the future. One time while waxing I removed all strings except the G string, just to save me the hassle of pulling out my tuner later(it's in a gnx4 processor, don't have a stand alone tuner yet) and the bass side of the nut was sticking up, it went back to normal when I put the strings back on, but I don't think it should do that. If anyone knows what the problem is, please let me know. Aside from that, if I were to replace it later, what kind of nut should I get? Bone? Brass? I don't really know much about them, so some input would be appreciated.

Thanks

RCCollins · #2 11-26-2009, 03:53 PM

i really like the brass just-a-nut I that earlier Warwicks than yours came with stock

StreetSurfer · #3 11-26-2009, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RCCollins

i really like the brass just-a-nut I that earlier Warwicks than yours came with stock

Yeah but I don't know where to get those or if it makes a difference in sound. So...

levis76 · #4 11-26-2009, 03:59 PM

You probably have the just a nut 2 which is a piece of crap. You should upgrade to the version 3. It's really easy to install and you can adjust it without removing the strings.

StreetSurfer · #5 11-26-2009, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by levis76

You probably have the just a nut 2 which is a piece of crap. You should upgrade to the version 3. It's really easy to install and you can adjust it without removing the strings.

Know where I can get one? Last I checked the only US Warwick distributor doesn't carry Warwick anymore.

**lowendfriend** · #6 11-26-2009, 04:03 PM

+1 on what levis76 said

JAN III is also easy to adjust for setup....its not just a nut...it's adjustable.

levis76 · #7 11-26-2009, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by StreetSurfer

Know where I can get one? Last I checked the only US Warwick distributor doesn't carry Warwick anymore.

www.ebay.com
I used to have a vette 4 with a just a nut 2. Found a guy on the evilbay that had a bunch for 4 and 5 strings. Cost me about $10.

bass12 · #8 11-26-2009, 04:06 PM

I would just take your bass to a local luthier (there must be some good ones in MD) and have him make you a graphite nut. It's not a major procedure and the graphite will last forever (and won't sound quite as harsh as a brass nut). I really don't see the need for an adjustable nut.

levis76 · #9 11-26-2009, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by bass12

I would just take your bass to a local luthier (there must be some good ones in MD) and have him make you a graphite nut. It's not a major procedure and the graphite will last forever (and won't sound quite as harsh as a brass nut). I really don't see the need for an adjustable nut.

+1 on no brass. Brass is a bit harsh for my taste. As far as needing an adjustable nut is up to you to decide. I liked it, but to each his own.

FarkusSWR · #10 11-26-2009, 04:20 PM

I just bought a JAN III from their new distributor, Hanser Music Group. Haven't installed it yet, plan on doing so this weekend. Looks pretty simple.

http://www.hansermusicgroup.com/

Found the info on the distributor change on the Warwick forums.

One Bad Monkey · #11 11-26-2009, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by FarkusSWR

http://www.hansermusicgroup.com/

Either them, or check to see what Rocket Music might have in stock.

warwick.hoy · #12 11-26-2009, 04:58 PM

I had a JAN II on my Thumb BO that seemed week in the center. It bowed downward from the tension of the strings,...so much so that I used cardstock to wedge up underneath and relieve the bow. I contacted the distributer (Dana B Goods at the time nearly ten years ago) and they sent me a new "stronger" JAN II.

Recently I carelessly left my Thumbo leaning against a table and of course if fell and broke the nut like so,...

I could never get over how the Jan IIs had those two protrusions from where the clips went into place. Occasionally they would stab me if I got a little carried away in my motions. Also,...I've never once adjusted the nut the entire time I've owned this bass so I just went ahead and had a repair shop replace the broken Jan II with a bone nut.

I like the bone nut,...it's solid and comfortable. The whole JAN thing may be useful to some but to me it's just a selling point.

StreetSurfer · #13 11-26-2009, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by FarkusSWR

I just bought a JAN III from their new distributor, Hanser Music Group. Haven't installed it yet, plan on doing so this weekend. Looks pretty simple.

http://www.hansermusicgroup.com/

Found the info on the distributor change on the Warwick forums.

Thanks! I didn't know they had a new distributor. Also to the other posters thanks for the input on brass nuts, I was considering them but after hearing that they're harsh I changed my mind, in fact I'm planning to switch from ss lo riders to nickel to bring the harshness down.

StreetSurfer · #14 11-26-2009, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by warwick.hoy

I had a JAN II on my Thumb BO that seemed week in the center. It bowed downward from the tension of the strings,...so much so that I used cardstock to wedge up underneath and relieve the bow. I contacted the distributer (Dana B Goods at the time nearly ten years ago) and they sent me a new "stronger" JAN II.

Recently I carelessly left my Thumbo leaning against a table and of course if fell and broke the nut like so,...

I could never get over how the Jan IIs had those two protrusions from where the clips went into place. Occasionally they would stab me if I got a little carried away in my motions. Also,...I've never once adjusted the nut the entire time I've owned this bass so I just went ahead and had a repair shop replace the broken Jan II with a bone nut.

I like the bone nut,...it's solid and comfortable. The whole JAN thing may be useful to some but to me it's just a selling point.

thanks, I may also consider bone or graphite if not a JAN III. Did you notice any tonal difference?

warwick.hoy · #15 11-26-2009, 05:08 PM

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thanks, I may also consider bone or graphite if not a JAN III. Did you notice any tonal difference?

None at all.

I had a brass nut installed on a MIJ Reissue 75 Jazz Bass and it seemed like an open note sounded closer to a fretted note. May be the case more so with a Warwick considering the frets are brass as well.

Or not.

StreetSurfer · #16 11-26-2009, 05:08 PM

Hmm... I just checked out hansermusicgroup.com and can't find the Warwick stuff. Some help please?

scotch · #17 11-26-2009, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by StreetSurfer

Thanks! I didn't know they had a new distributor. Also to the other posters thanks for the input on brass nuts, I was considering them but after hearing that they're harsh I changed my mind, in fact I'm planning to switch from ss lo riders to nickel to bring the harshness down.

I don't know if I 'buy' this whole "harsh" thing. The frets are brass & they don't sound "harsh", right? I have an old Warwick w/ the brass nut, and to me, it just sounds more consistent from fretted note to open string. Makes sense, right?

StreetSurfer · #18 11-26-2009, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by scotch

I don't know if I 'buy' this whole "harsh" thing. The frets are brass & they don't sound "harsh", right? I have an old Warwick w/ the brass nut, and to me, it just sounds more consistent from fretted note to open string. Makes sense, right?

Hmm, interesting. I'll keep that in mind. A guitar playing friend of mine said that that it would definately sound different, but maybe it makes a bigger diff on guitar. Who knows

warwick.hoy · #19 11-26-2009, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by StreetSurfer

Hmm, interesting. I'll keep that in mind. A guitar playing friend of mine said that that it would definately sound different, but maybe it makes a bigger diff on guitar. Who knows

There's your problem right there,.....

StreetSurfer · #20 11-26-2009, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by warwick.hoy

There's your problem right there,.....

lol

he's a good friend of mine and a respectable player with fair knowledge of bass and respect for it too, and when he plays bass he does it fingerstyle. But a few facts about bass that I mentioned to him surprised him so... Maybe he really doesn't know