Go Back   TalkBass Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > Hardware, Setup & Repair [BG]
Register Rules/FAQ/CUP Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read



Supporting Membership
Thank You

Latest Supporting Member
Donate to Upgrade Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 09-15-2011, 05:46 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Weird Random Fret Buzz

Sign in to disble this ad
I am getting fret buzz on one fret (D on the G string). Every other spot on the bass is perfect and the buzz appears at random times. Basically it will not buzz for a while and then all of the sudden it will buzz out of nowhere and then it will stop. It does not appear that the next fret wire is too high and the same fret on the E-A-D strings does not buzz not matter how hard I try to make it buzz. The buzz also sounds different than typical fret buzz, if that makes any sense. I cannot find any loose parts on the bass. Does anyone have any idea what might be causing it? Thanks!
  #2  
Old 09-15-2011, 08:15 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Cordoba, Argentina
Hi
What bass ?
Did you check your (loose) trussrod?
  #3  
Old 09-15-2011, 09:46 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Music Man Sterling. The truss rod is tight.
  #4  
Old 09-15-2011, 10:22 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Netherlands
Perhaps the fret is worn out and is now lower than other frets. It's not a setup issue if it's the only note that buzzes on the entire bass.
  #5  
Old 09-15-2011, 10:48 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Quote:
Originally Posted by Basshoofd View Post
Perhaps the fret is worn out and is now lower than other frets. It's not a setup issue if it's the only note that buzzes on the entire bass.
The bass is only three days old, so the frets are in perfect shape. The strange thing is that it will not buzz at all and then all of the sudden it reappears. It does not seem to be a fret problem, maybe a frequency buzz?
  #6  
Old 09-15-2011, 11:37 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Oracle, Arizona
If there is a lack of consistency on the exact fret/note in question, I would consider technique as a variable.
__________________
Paul Tutmarc: Inventor of the Electric Bass - 1931.
1st Electric Bass "Serenader":. L.D. HEATER Co. 1948
  #7  
Old 09-15-2011, 11:55 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Quote:
Originally Posted by john grey View Post
If there is a lack of consistency on the exact fret/note in question, I would consider technique as a variable.
I agree and tried fretting the note in myriad different ways (sloppy, proper and everything in between) and it still seems to be a random thing. Plus no other spot on the neck gives me any trouble at all and I have been playing for 25 years and do not recall experiencing this particular type of buzz.
  #8  
Old 09-15-2011, 12:21 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Oracle, Arizona
I understand: that is odd.
If it were me I would determine if there was "extreme" humidity variables that could pull a very slight (1/10,000) bumpy fret a touch higher or if there might even be a fret that is not seated well and creates this condition.
An old method of checking this was after using a very clean straight edge (not a string as it actually needs a visual flat surface), un-string the instrument and using a spoon, push down the frets moving across the neck (from the E to the G string) on each fret to provide enough pressure to seat any fret that may have risen from it's tang, then restringing the instrument and test. Start on the last (21st or whatever) fret and work up to the first fret. Gently push them all into place with a very smooth spoon. Do not use a great deal of pressure to do this. While the string are off check for bright spots, that may indicate such an issue.

EDIT:
You need the straight edge because you are taking the strings OFF and gently sweeping the straight edge across the frets (from the E string side to the G string side) looking and feeling for problems and seeing if you get a bright spot. You are applying virtually no pressure when you do this, just a few ounces. MANY necks will have anomalies in their fret seating but you are looking for rub marks such as those made by the rolls of a wound string (not slap indentations). Sight down the neck as well and look for the obvious high fret on the slope of the radius.
__________________
Paul Tutmarc: Inventor of the Electric Bass - 1931.
1st Electric Bass "Serenader":. L.D. HEATER Co. 1948

Last edited by john grey : 09-16-2011 at 10:54 AM.
  #9  
Old 09-15-2011, 12:52 PM
96tbird's Avatar
<---Shinola Shite--^
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Manitoba, Canada
Supporting Member
Check saddles? If not level they have buzzed on me before and only when I played a certain note... Buzzing against its neighbor.
__________________
'74ish Ampeg V4B, 115/210. * '75 Gibson G3. *Epi Tbird. *Squier: VM Jazz, CV 50's P. *Squier VM Jazz Assoc. *MBC 641. Squier owners club
  #10  
Old 09-15-2011, 01:36 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
@ John Grey and tbird - thanks, I will try both of your ideas tonight.
  #11  
Old 09-16-2011, 10:38 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
So I checked the frets and the bridge and even shaved a sliver off of the G string mute (it is a Sterling Classic) which was sitting very close to the string and the buzz was still there. I like low action and a straight fretboard so I raised the action a hair and set a little bit of relief in the neck and it improved quite a bit. I also focussed on my technique and it seems the issue is a combination of technique and a low-action set up that was pushing the limits a bit. The A# fret on the G string must be a fraction higher than the others because I have no issues anywhere else. All is good now.
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Follow TalkBass on Twitter   Visit TalkBass on Facebook  

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:08 AM.




Copyright 2011 Talk Music Group Inc. All rights reserved.
Play guitar? Visit our new sister site TalkGuitar.com [beta]
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.12
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.