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02-27-2013, 12:57 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Mount Airy, North Carolina | | | What's the best type of tuner especially for intonation? Under $100 Poly? Chromatic? other?
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02-27-2013, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by NYCbassist Under $100 Poly? Chromatic? other? | $12 Snark.
For intonation, Peterson strobe.
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02-27-2013, 04:53 PM
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02-27-2013, 04:55 PM
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02-27-2013, 05:01 PM
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02-27-2013, 05:22 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Southern California | | If accuracy is your primary focus, nothing touches the Turbo Tuner: http://www.turbo-tuner.com/
That said the Peterson tuners (Strobostomp, Stroboflip) have "sweetened" tunings (slight tuning offsets) that work really well.
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02-27-2013, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by testing1two If accuracy is your primary focus, nothing touches the Turbo Tuner: http://www.turbo-tuner.com/
That said the Peterson tuners (Strobostomp, Stroboflip) have "sweetened" tunings (slight tuning offsets) that work really well. | Do they offer that tuner at any other retailer for under $100?
To answer the question asked, I'd recommend the Korg PitchBlack or the Boss TU-3.
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02-27-2013, 05:59 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Mount Airy, North Carolina | | Thanks Fellas. I really like the look of the Turbo Tuner St-200. Even if it's a bit over $100, Maybe I need to bump my $$ limit up. It's only money I guess. 
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02-27-2013, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by NYCbassist Thanks Fellas. I really like the look of the Turbo Tuner St-200. Even if it's a bit over $100, Maybe I need to bump my $$ limit up. It's only money I guess.  | I love mine!
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02-27-2013, 08:57 PM
| | | | turbo-tuner leaves all others in the dust, it ain't even close.
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02-27-2013, 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by walterw turbo-tuner leaves all others in the dust, it ain't even close. | I'm Sold! 
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02-28-2013, 10:14 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Spanaway, WA | | If you have an android phone, try DaTuner Pro. Currently $2.83 on Google Play( https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...v_other#?t=W10.), or DaTuner Lite (free, no strobotune mode)
Emulated strobo-tune, accuracy < 0.3 cents @ E3 (329.62Hz), <0.1 cents @ C5(1046.5Hz), < 1 cent @ A2 (110Hz), Large note display and very configurable.
Downside- not quite as accurate as the $130 Turbo-Tuner is a microphone-only tuner, so it can't be put on a peadalboard or mute output to your amp.
Best Android app I've ever used, works great for intonation. I own several tuners, this one os my go-to one, except for live, where I use my pedal tuner.
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02-28-2013, 10:30 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Silicon Valley, CA, USA | | | I've tried to set intonation with a number of tuners over the years. First the usual LED "virtual meter" types, then Peterson VS-1, now the Turbo Tuner.
IMHO a strobe type tuner is essential for setting intonation. The precision of strobe tuners will drive you bonkers at first, but it's absolutely necessary to get intonation correct.
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02-28-2013, 10:34 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Fort Collins, Colorado | | | Any tuner that's at least as accurate as the human ear. Once you have met that standard, you're good.
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02-28-2013, 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Pilgrim Any tuner that's at least as accurate as the human ear. Once you have met that standard, you're good. | i guess that's true, you can get by with just about anything, but it's nice to have a tuner that's way more accurate than the ear, so you don't run the chance of the error margins stacking in the same direction, which could add up to being less accurate than the ear.
it's also nice with the turbo (because it's analog, therefore instantaneous) to be able to see the transient vs the decay, and also to see any string inharmonicity. that, plus the zero-lag nature of the tuning display, just means i can get there faster on stage and get there more accurately on the bench.
i keep one on my bench as well as all my pedalboards, anything else just feels slow and "opaque" by comparison.
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02-28-2013, 07:04 PM
| | | I would say a snark, but nothing can compare to a well trained ear  | 
02-28-2013, 07:14 PM
| | | | wasting the band's and the crowd's time by relying on a "well-trained ear" on stage between songs is amateur hour, sorry. it'll also only get you into the ballpark for intonation.
(as a player, that "well-trained ear" can help you to unconsciously push and pull the notes into tune while playing, but that's a different discussion.)
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02-28-2013, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Pilgrim Any tuner that's at least as accurate as the human ear. Once you have met that standard, you're good. | This,
I doubt anyone would be able to hear the difference between a bass intonated using a strobe vs a chromatic.
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02-28-2013, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by walterw wasting the band's and the crowd's time by relying on a "well-trained ear" on stage between songs is amateur hour, sorry. it'll also only get you into the ballpark for intonation.
(as a player, that "well-trained ear" can help you to unconsciously push and pull the notes into tune while playing, but that's a different discussion.) | Absolutely. Besides there is no way the human ear can be as accurate as a good tuner. I have a friend who has an amazing talent for correct pitch. The best I have ever seen in fact. He couldn't match the Peterson though. Being on stage with no tuner is something that I wouldn't tolerate in my band, I can tell you that much.
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03-01-2013, 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by walterw wasting the band's and the crowd's time by relying on a "well-trained ear" on stage between songs is amateur hour, sorry. | Gotta disagree. The oldest bone flute goes back 60,000 years so we humans have been playing music a long time. We've had readily available electronic guitar tuners for what, 35 years or so? Through most of history we've used our ears to tune and anyone who plays a horn or fretless stringed instrument is constantly using ears to maintain correct pitch.
I always set my intonation by ear and then check it with a tuner. I'm accurate enough that even if I didn't check it against a tuner I'd be confident recording with it. That said I do appreciate the accuracy of strobe tuners. If you're gonna use one why not use the most accurate one you can get?
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