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11-18-2004, 05:33 AM
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I've been getting into some Hugh Masekela and Fela Kuti and am after some more artists in this "genre", that I might get into? Any suggestions, especialy albums would be cool!
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11-18-2004, 05:39 AM
|  | Unprofessional TalkBass Contributor | | Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Brighton, England, UK, Europe | | | There are lots of different types of African music...
I like :
King Sunny Ade
Youssou 'n Dor
- as groove- based stuff
If you want African Jazz - then Abdullah Ibrahim is the 'Classic' - like Water from an Ancient Well"
I'll think of some more...
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11-18-2004, 10:34 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brixton, South London | | One of my faves - aside from Fela's son Femi Kuti's stuff - is Joe Zawinul's Syndicate group - Faces and Places his last CD is wall to wall Afro-funk fusion - the double live CD from a few years ago is worth checking out as well, so is My People, basically you have a selection of great bass players on those records, including Matt Garrison, and more recebtlky Richard Bona, Etienne Mpappe (spelling?), Victor Bailey - need I say more?
Two others worth hearing are Fela Kuti's original drummer Tony Allen, who's pretty funky, and Cheik Lo - who's stuff is beautiful. There's also Baaba Maal - very cool - and if you want something more modern try the Antibalas Afrobeat Orchestra - they rock!
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11-18-2004, 10:38 AM
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Joe Zawinul's Syndicate group - this sounds especially interesting! |
11-18-2004, 10:41 AM
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11-18-2004, 10:44 AM
| | | | All the names I was going to mention have been mentioned before, except Salif Keita, I dig him a lot too.
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11-18-2004, 10:52 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brixton, South London | | +1 for Salif Keita - try 'Papa' and 'Folon' - both very funky albums indeed. The other guy who's stuff is pretty good - especially his first album is Richard Bona - that man is a walking encyclopedia of African music - but I'd go get some Salif Keita and Zawinul Syndicate first - Faces and Places is a great album - I've played it regularly for well over a year now  |
11-18-2004, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Howard K
Joe Zawinul's Syndicate group - this sounds especially interesting!
| I have both the album's that Mike's talking about and I wouldn't call them 'African' as such - Joe Zawinul is taking all sort of world music and fusing it with his own Jazz and Funk beats - mixing stuff together - much as he did in Weather Report. There's all sort of stuff in there!
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11-18-2004, 11:01 AM
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11-18-2004, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Bruce Lindfield I have both the album's that Mike's talking about and I wouldn't call them 'African' as such - Joe Zawinul is taking all sort of world music and fusing it with his own Jazz and Funk beats - mixing stuff together - much as he did in Weather Report. There's all sort of stuff in there! | I know Bruce - you're right about it not being purely African - but Howard was asking specifically about 'grooves' - this band is about as groovy as it gets in bass terms and they are permiatations of African 3/4 and 6/8 feels with a modern twist - I <b>also</b> mentioned a load of actual African artists as well - so don't be so picky.... 
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11-18-2004, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by urb_munki I know Bruce - you're right about it not being purely African - but Howard was asking specifically about 'grooves' - this band is about as groovy as it gets in bass terms and they are permiatations of African 3/4 and 6/8 feels with a modern twist - I <b>also</b> mentioned a load of actual African artists as well - so don't be so picky.... |
Well.. Joe Zawinul is not African !! But he has been doing this kind of thing for many years - so like "Nubian Sun Dance" on WR's Mysterious Traveller is very much an African-influenced piece - but nowadays I hear his work very much as a synthesis of all his influences - much more improvised for example, with elements of his classical background as well.
It's not all groovy either - there are large,elements of ambient, sampled sounds that are almost static....?
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11-18-2004, 03:54 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Norway, Oslo | | | Yeah, I go with Zawinul. Perhaps Bona.
Saw Zawinul in Wienna last month.
It was a total blast. A truly great show, and the best part of it all was the bass player: Linley Marthe.
There was some amazing stuff going on there. |
11-18-2004, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Bruce Lindfield Well.. Joe Zawinul is not African !! But he has been doing this kind of thing for many years - so like "Nubian Sun Dance" on WR's Mysterious Traveller is very much an African-influenced piece - but nowadays I hear his work very much as a synthesis of all his influences - much more improvised for example, with elements of his classical background as well.
It's not all groovy either - there are large,elements of ambient, sampled sounds that are almost static....? | I know you love the last word Bruce - so I know you're going to reply to this - but Faces and Places is a funky album and may feature an ambient moment or three but it definitely grooves in a big way for the most part...have you heard the last tune with Bona and Zawinul try to out funk each other? That is some killin' fretless bass if ever I heard it. |
11-18-2004, 05:56 PM
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11-19-2004, 10:32 PM
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11-19-2004, 10:39 PM
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is almost completely ignored. It's a damn crime...
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11-22-2004, 01:50 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Virginia | | I just got to see Thomas Mapfumo and he is really good. My bandmate got to do a few gigs with him last month.
Check out our website www.hotelxmusic.com We do covers of Abdullah Ibrahim, Salif Keita plus some nice originals that are very much in the African jazz vein.
Also the compilation Nigeria 70 has a great selection of tracks. Not sure if it is still in print though. | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | 
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