is all music the same?

Samthebassist · #1 01-09-2010, 08:22 PM

In my opinion, all this new music that's coming out these days seems to be exactly the same.

Now i know there are some songs and bands that really are new and 'fresh' and original.

For the most part everything is the same. Especially mainstream stuff like pop and hip hop and rap.

Its awfully annoying, sometimes i cannot stand to listen to the radio.

IE- jonas brothers, miley cyrus (Hannah montana), just about any hip hop or rap group. can you even consider these people musicians? because i sure don't

questions? comments? concerns?

ourworldisgrey · #2 01-09-2010, 08:36 PM

If you're willing to look beyond the mainstream, there is alot of new and interesting music.

T-MOST · #3 01-09-2010, 08:43 PM

I agree with pop music sounding pretty similar and sucking on a major level.. but it's still done by musicians. Musicians creating a lot of music I don't like. But there is still tons of music out there that I do like.

mcm · #4 01-09-2010, 08:51 PM

the stuff you mentioned is not music is it? its all computer generated

Kuchar · #5 01-09-2010, 08:55 PM

It's still music, it's just crappy music that satisfies the short attention span of most people. Since it's so crappy (IMO), record labels are able to find new stars and create new 'hit' songs fast and easy generating money.

Walah. Crappy music = easy money (as long as you are "hot")

mellowgerman · #6 01-09-2010, 09:01 PM

I often ask myself the same question because I can't find anything unique in a lot of contemporary radio stuff, but I think it just depends on how you define music and what you ultimately want from it.

Samthebassist · #7 01-09-2010, 09:02 PM

def. you guys got the right idea

thats why i LOVE going to local concerts! theyre so cheap and theyre so original! hard to ignore all that live powerful energy just pulsating through the crowd!

jowens004 · #8 01-09-2010, 09:03 PM

I generally think that the music industry bases thier acceptance on a new artist by how much they suck. The more they suck the more successfull they feel they will be. Which sadly (IMHO) seems to be the truth.

bassteban · #9 01-09-2010, 09:04 PM

You just used the words *music*, Myley Cyrus and the Jonas Bros in the same sentence. Go apply a large piece of cheese to your forehead- now.

fast slapper · #10 01-09-2010, 09:06 PM

It's all been done.

mellowgerman · #11 01-09-2010, 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samthebassist

def. you guys got the right idea

thats why i LOVE going to local concerts! theyre so cheap and theyre so original! hard to ignore all that live powerful energy just pulsating through the crowd!

Totally. I can't stress enough how amazing local shows can be. There are certain venues up here in Buffalo that never cease to blow my mind with the acts they find. Very interesting stuff.

4001 · #12 01-09-2010, 09:07 PM

The whole Nickleback sounding thing in half the bands with the strained 'oh, life is tough' vocal stylings make me puke. I even hear a lot of girls/women singing with that grunting sound starting every word they sing.

I think todays pop music offers NOTHING in terms of great musicianship like it used to in days long gone by.

Can anyone name for me one bassist in today's pop music that even comes close to Jamerson or Carol Kaye in terms of pure talent and memorable basslines?

I won't hold my breath for an answer.

powellmacaque · #13 01-09-2010, 09:23 PM

I do agree, a lot of today's pop is pretty homogenous. If you listen to the lyrical content of country, pop, rock, and hip hop, it's all pretty much either teen-movie dilemma or flaunting the "good life". The record companies are genius: don't write a new song, just change out the banjo for a synth and you have turned a country song into an r&b jam. We all have to realize that the greatest common denominator doesn't care about artistic integrity, never has, never will.

I do however see bits and pieces of creativity in the scene. I think in order to notice these changes, you need to look at the innovator, not the follower. For instance, T-Pain, Lil Wayne, and Kanye West did change hip hop. The followers are garbage, but they started incorporating trance and techno into pop music. A few years ago Lil Jon made hip hop fun again, stuff like that.

As for rock, I think it's been stagnant for a few (2-3) years. I'm into punk/alternative stuff, but even the metal and hardrock is getting bland. I thought Avenged Sevenfold were going to pioneer "pop metal" but then their last album came out and was bland.

I'm looking forward to the musical response to today's music. I think the reaction will be very acoustic and anti-pop (kinda like 90s grunge stuff). Let's hope.

mikeyswood · #14 01-09-2010, 09:29 PM

What do you guys mean?

CharlieDog · #15 01-10-2010, 04:03 AM

I hate when people indiscriminately hate on rap and hip-hop simply because the mainstream gangsta image is so prevalent.

OP, here's some good hip-hop.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qm7Xt2Qsjcg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvY38j7JdCk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycJ5m5Mt9JE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KnGNOiFll4

Tell me what you think.

5StringBlues · #16 01-10-2010, 04:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeyswood

What do you guys mean?

^ That was great!

Paul262 · #17 01-10-2010, 04:37 AM

The solution is not to ever buy CD's, always listen to independently-produced music.

Never buy MP3s online - download instead.

Always support your band by going to their shows and buy a t-shirt or something, the band has a far greater cut in the gig and t-shirt sales than the music they made since they have to pay a multitude of people to be able to record and produce it.

In addition, throw away your TV, don't pay attention to main stream media, watch and read blogs like The Needle Drop for excellent independent music, that isn't crassly produced.

Roadman · #18 01-10-2010, 04:57 AM

I'll just say that this is nothing new. Listen to any Big Band, Doo Wop, Motown, 60's Folk, Disco or Gurnge. The battle between art and commerce is is as old as Mozart. Someone innovates, and everyone rushes in to capitalize.

At least it's a lot easier these days to find of all kinds of cool stuff beyond the top 40. Thank God for the internet.

Bootzilla · #19 01-10-2010, 04:58 AM

I dont understand this thread? Are you guys watching mtv and listening to radio and expect music? You guys are looking in the wrong places.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pq-yP7mb8UE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_-Gl...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMy6X5cQul8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZR035Mhd58o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7QSkI6My1g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4g6VdXbI_3s

There's so much out there...

the general · #20 01-10-2010, 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CharlieDog

I hate when people indiscriminately hate on rap and hip-hop simply because the mainstream gangsta image is so prevalent.

OP, here's some good hip-hop.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qm7Xt2Qsjcg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvY38j7JdCk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycJ5m5Mt9JE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KnGNOiFll4

Tell me what you think.

it's ok. but the point is most people out there listening to rap and hip hop are listening to the garbage they play on mtv and the radio in which they play the same songs 10 times in 3 hrs. if you want good music search for it. find an independent record store and look for music or go to local shows. on the 'hard life' vocal style bands such as nickelback, puddle of mud, and Creedhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipy58SaIRhs