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11-26-2006, 10:13 PM
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Where should I start listening if I want to listen to that guy's stuff? Admittetly, the Cliff Burton thread sparked my interest. Again. Last time I made a thread about classical music, I tried to find some of the suggested pieces and it was really confusing, since it's done by other people, so I have no idea what's a good version and what isn't. Or does it even matter? | 
11-26-2006, 10:39 PM
|  | TalkBass' resident Bongo + Cowbell player | | Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Bucaramanga, Colombia, South A | | Bach's catalogue is HUGE, but I'd suggest Brandenburg Concertos as a great starting point.
I think you shouldn't be concerned about versions. Just listen the most you can and enjoy the different interpretations of a piece. That's a very constructive experience. | 
11-26-2006, 10:45 PM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Auburn, Washington | | Thanks again. I listened to the Beethoven stuff you suggested in my last thread. However, after I got done with that, I kind of lost interest. But I noticed my music taste is becoming really bland, so I have to expand my knowledge once again.
I'll take it one step at a time, this time. Being bombarded with all the suggestions last time was one of the things that made me lose interest so fast. 
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11-26-2006, 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Poop-Loops Thanks again. I listened to the Beethoven stuff you suggested in my last thread. However, after I got done with that, I kind of lost interest. But I noticed my music taste is becoming really bland, so I have to expand my knowledge once again.
I'll take it one step at a time, this time. Being bombarded with all the suggestions last time was one of the things that made me lose interest so fast.  | Slightly OT, but regarding versions and Beethoven, here are the versions of the nine symphonies that have impressed me the most.  | 
11-26-2006, 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Poop-Loops Where should I start listening if I want to listen to that guy's stuff? Admittetly, the Cliff Burton thread sparked my interest. Again. Last time I made a thread about classical music, I tried to find some of the suggested pieces and it was really confusing, since it's done by other people, so I have no idea what's a good version and what isn't. Or does it even matter? | I'd recommend:
Cello Suites
Violin Concertos
Art of Fugue (on Viols by Fretwork is my favorite at the moment)
also,
Sonatas and Partitas for Solo Violin
Lute Works
Viola da Gamba Sonatas
Violin Sonatas
There's a lot more, of course, but those are some good starting places.
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11-26-2006, 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Alvaro Martín Gómez A. Slightly OT, but regarding versions and Beethoven, here are the versions of the nine symphonies that have impressed me the most.  | I didn't get all 9. I think I found an album that had the 1st and 5th and that's what I got. I'll check out all 9 eventually.
It's on my "to do" list.  | 
11-26-2006, 11:51 PM
| | I don't think, but I still am. | | Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: So. Cali | | | Well, I don't know if you want Bach itself, but there is a cool cd by pianist Jacques Loussier entitled Jacques Play Bach. He is playing with a drummer and upright bass doing some jazzier rendition of Bachs music. I think it is beautiful and it is one of my favorite cds to relax to.
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11-27-2006, 01:37 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Pleasanton, CA | | | Good timing. I'm writing a paper for my music history class about a Bach piece. I'm hoping to write about one of the Cello Suites, but I'm admittedly out of my "comfort zone". If anyone has a suggestion on which piece and/or recording, I would GREATLY appreciate it. | 
11-27-2006, 01:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Poop-Loops I didn't get all 9. I think I found an album that had the 1st and 5th and that's what I got. I'll check out all 9 eventually.
It's on my "to do" list.  | awww, mang!! you gotta check out the 9th! and the 6th!! then you can move on for a bit.
and if you're on a classical exploration tip, try shostakovich's 5th symphony. AWESOME.
my feeling on Bach is: it's all good. the only Bach i've ever heard that i didn't really like too much was performed on a piano. since the piano didn't exist when Bach was writing most (all?) of his stuff, i don't feel his music lends itself too well to the instrument. but that's just me.
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11-27-2006, 02:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Alvaro Martín Gómez A. Slightly OT, but regarding versions and Beethoven, here are the versions of the nine symphonies that have impressed me the most.  | I prefer Roger Norrington's set for period ensemble and this has won many awards!!
Buit I think the point is that unlike with bass guitar you have centuries of musical tradition which has beeen reinterpreted many times in the case of Bach and Beethoven.
Also - professional musicians in the time of Bach wrote to commissions from Royal Patrons and the Church - they were writing for money to give them what they wanted to hear. So there is a vast amount of material and it was often recycled and in some case may not actually be very good....
Of course by Beethoven's time we have more of a concept that the artist was writing what he had to and that his symphonies are a true "creative experession"...?
But in Bach's time it was about providing a background to Church and Royal Courts - and a huge amount of material was required - and often it was only sketched in by Bach, who expected a certain amount of improvisation - as he would have done at the keyboard when playing in ensembles.
So - apart from the huge catalogue - there is room for huge variations in intepretation - so it's incredibly difficult to say what is good and bad - there's just too much of it!!
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11-27-2006, 09:22 AM
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11-27-2006, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Blackbird Bach Cello Suites performed on double bass by Edgar Meyer. | The best double-bass recording I've heard is the complete recording by Richard Hartshorne: http://www.jsbach.org/hartshorneunac...llosuites.html
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