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Old 05-22-2007, 07:26 PM
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Hands down, best album of the year and without a doubt top 3 math rock albums of all time.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsQ10...battlestheband

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Well that was rather boring.

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What's worse than hearing somebody being unable to play an instrument trying to play an instrument? Multiple such persons trying to play multiple instruments!
Just kidding - I'm sure these guys have it down. Just not my thing.
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That's awesome. Good find, man.
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Really liked this Thanks for the link
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Old 05-23-2007, 07:07 AM
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I really didn't expect to like this but it rocked! That'd be some fun stuff to play.
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Old 05-23-2007, 07:21 AM
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aaah wicked, it's the geezer from Tomahawk on drums. Mad stuff
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Old 05-23-2007, 07:32 AM
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1...2...1...2...1...2...

That's some serious "math".

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Old 05-23-2007, 07:52 PM
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aaah wicked, it's the geezer from Tomahawk on drums. Mad stuff
Correct. That would John Stanier from Helmet, Tomahawk.
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1...2...1...2...1...2...

That's some serious "math".

That is what I was thinking.

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Old 05-24-2007, 08:37 PM
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1...2...1...2...1...2...

That's some serious "math".

typical response. do your research.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Math_rock
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Old 05-25-2007, 08:28 AM
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typical response. do your research.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Math_rock
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=wikipedia]Math rock is a style of rock music that emerged in the late 1980s. It is characterised by complex, atypical rhythmic structures, stop/start dynamics and angular, dissonant riffs.

Whereas most rock music uses a basic 4/4 beat (however accented or syncopated), math rock frequently uses odd-time meters such as 7/8, 11/8, or 13/8, or features constantly changing meters based on various groupings of 2 and 3. This rhythmic complexity, seen as "mathematical" in character by many listeners and critics, is what gives the genre its name. Musically, math rock derives from other rock genres, including rock, heavy metal, progressive rock, and punk rock. Math rock often sounds familiar but somehow "off."
4/4 isn't exactly what I'd call odd meter. Sure, these guys seemed like capable musicians, but ultimately it just sounded like unmusical noodling with random notes over a standard 4/4 beat. I guess it's for some, but not for me.

And must I be required to research every single obscure musical "genre" in order to be allowed to comment on it?
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The guitarist on the left is Ian from Don Caballero and the one on the right is Ty Braxton, son of jazz saxophonist/new music composer Anthony Braxton. Good stuff!
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not for me and where the hell is the BASS player?!!?!?
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not for me and where the hell is the BASS player?!!?!?
Pffft. What would they need that guy for?
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very cool stuff, sounds awesome
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So,what is math rock supposed to be,a variation of prog?
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So,what is math rock supposed to be,a variation of prog?


It seems that way

It's like if Prog was noisier.... I guess. I think it's more a case of someone came up with the term one day and thought they were clever and it stuck. I think it's like prog, but it's hip to like it... so in that respect, it's not at all like prog.

I like these guys, but I agree with Ben, a lot of this stuff is in 4/4. It's experimental for sure, but most of it isn't very "mathy." There are some elements though melodically I suppose, they just don't have a very "Mathy" drummer.

Some of their stuff is a little busy, I know that's the point of math rock, but good math rock can get busy without sounding cluttered. Still, I'm interested and if I got the chance, I'd like to see them live.
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Not crazy about that clip, but I dig some of the other songs I've heard on Youtube. I can listen to a lot of math rock but some of it just doesn't sit right. Don Caballero is pretty good, and I love Hella. What are some other math rock bands you'd recommend?
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Old 05-27-2007, 11:29 AM
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And must I be required to research every single obscure musical "genre" in order to be allowed to comment on it?
THANK YOU!! I was waiting for someone to say that. This is my problem with modern jazz/jazz-fusion. When someone says they don't like it because it doesn't really have a melody or theme or purpose, that it's because they don't "get it". We've got only musicians on this board. Everyone can comment on music.

My Comment: That would have been more interesting if it had some sort of melody. Sounded like 4/4 to me. Even if it wasn't, what's the point in playing extremely weird mathematical things if it ends up sounding like bad 4/4?
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