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12-19-2006, 02:38 PM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Marathon Man | | | Is this beautiful or what? (Tears in Heaven)
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Well, I've always enjoyed watching this guy's vids as he is a fantastic player. However, I caught this one today, having seen it before but paid it little attention, and I was floored when I really listened to it. The tone, melody, the upbeat-ness of the whole thing, just WOW! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFRsYLEzoWc | 
12-19-2006, 04:54 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Oak Park, MI | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris2112 Well, I've always enjoyed watching this guy's vids as he is a fantastic player. However, I caught this one today, having seen it before but paid it little attention, and I was floored when I really listened to it. The tone, melody, the upbeat-ness of the whole thing, just WOW! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFRsYLEzoWc | Have you heard the Jeff Berlin version he coped it from? It is killer!
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12-19-2006, 07:02 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Annapolis, Maryland | | | Yep..definitely a poor Jeff Berlin imitation with bad time and bad tone! But I know I can't even get close to that. So I'll just stick to playing walking bass lines and Soul Man! | 
12-19-2006, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Blake Bass Yep..definitely a poor Jeff Berlin imitation with bad time and bad tone! But I know I can't even get close to that. So I'll just stick to playing walking bass lines and Soul Man! | +1 | 
12-19-2006, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Nino Valenti +1 | +2 | 
12-20-2006, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by burk48237 Have you heard the Jeff Berlin version he coped it from? It is killer! | yeah, that sounds just like berlin's version, maybe with a few extra notes thrown in | 
12-21-2006, 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by burk48237 Have you heard the Jeff Berlin version he coped it from? It is killer! | I had a listen to a version Jeff did on Youtube but I'm sure he must have just been messing around as it wasn't too great. Does anyone know where I can hear a proper recording of jeff's version? | 
12-21-2006, 09:24 AM
| | | | I was like wow too.. but just cause he had a lot of basses on the walls. | 
12-22-2006, 03:46 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brixton, South London | | | That really is a very poor take on Jeff Berlin's amazing original 'jazz' version - the song is originally by Eric Clapton (about his son that died). The guy in this video is OK but aside from his over-developed Mark King chops - he's not great at other styles - his fretless playing sucks!
Find Jeff Berlin's version of this tune - it'll blow you away.
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12-22-2006, 05:40 AM
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12-22-2006, 05:55 AM
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Btw, why make a beautiful sad song so funky?
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12-22-2006, 05:55 AM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Marathon Man | | | See, I like that version that Jeff does there, but he seems to lose it a bit with some of his improvisation. I mean, he quite clearly the man as we can tell from watching this video, but his version just doesn't seem to have the same "boom" factor as the other one.
Gotta mention though, Jeff's tone in that clip there is just "oh my word" gorgeous. | 
12-22-2006, 08:28 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Surrey, United Kingdom | | I wouldn't normally comment on someone's video presentation but IMO when someone sits down alone and plays to a cam chances are they think they are the dogs bits. Poor imitation of the Berlin take on a beautiful ballad. Very noisy too not well executed IMO. Really not nice  | 
12-22-2006, 08:46 AM
|  | The Funkfather Endorsing Artist: Kohlman Bassworks | | Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Hampton Roads, Virginia | | | Just wondering................is that dude (first post) in a band or something? He's got a ton of vids up on youtube but I've never seen anything of him in a band context! Is he just a bedroom bassist? | 
12-22-2006, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Nick Bassman I wouldn't normally comment on someone's video presentation but IMO when someone sits down alone and plays to a cam chances are they think they are the dogs bits. Poor imitation of the Berlin take on a beautiful ballad. Very noisy too not well executed IMO. Really not nice  | +1
+1 to whoever thought Tears in Heaven sounds weird at that tempo too. | 
12-23-2006, 06:17 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brixton, South London | | Just found another Jeff Berlin version with a drummer - sounds good: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44s3CqCl_rw
I forgot to mention the first guy's tone as well wasn't happening either, vey 'clanky' - and I think he is very much a bedroom slapper - no idea who he is outside of all his MK 'tribute' stuff.
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12-23-2006, 06:31 AM
| | | | Why I won't write song with lyrics is so clearly exemplified here.
Imagine if you wrote a song, about the loss of a love, or worse, as it is here; the loss of a child. It may seem cathartic at the time.
Now imagine that it suddenly becomes a hit. Then imagine having to feel the pain, and perform it over and over again every night on tour.
Lastly, imagine slap wankers playing it uptempo, like it's a f@#%ing happy song.
Sickening, sorry. I even find Jeff's version offensive. | 
12-23-2006, 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris2112 The tone, melody, the upbeat-ness of the whole thing, just WOW! | I don't think "upbeat-ness" was in the original concept as Eric saw it (sorry Chris, not out to bust you). | 
12-23-2006, 07:00 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Denton Tx | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Basshole Why I won't write song with lyrics is so clearly exemplified here.
Imagine if you wrote a song, about the loss of a love, or worse, as it is here; the loss of a child. It may seem cathartic at the time.
Now imagine that it suddenly becomes a hit. Then imagine having to feel the pain, and perform it over and over again every night on tour.
Lastly, imagine slap wankers playing it uptempo, like it's a f@#%ing happy song.
Sickening, sorry. I even find Jeff's version offensive. | +1/2
I think it was just wrong to do that to that song, but not because of lack of respect for the original or anything like that. More like "dude, you just don't get it do you?"
You have to figure though that no matter what you do, it will give other people ideas that will not mesh with your original intent. You shouldn't let that stop you from sharing your thoughts though! | 
12-23-2006, 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Basshole Why I won't write song with lyrics is so clearly exemplified here.
Imagine if you wrote a song, about the loss of a love, or worse, as it is here; the loss of a child. It may seem cathartic at the time.
Now imagine that it suddenly becomes a hit. Then imagine having to feel the pain, and perform it over and over again every night on tour.
Lastly, imagine slap wankers playing it uptempo, like it's a f@#%ing happy song.
Sickening, sorry. I even find Jeff's version offensive. | +1
Berlin's playing is impressive, but that song played like that does not sound good.
faster with more notes != better.
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