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04-22-2005, 02:26 AM
|  | (((o))) Moderator | | Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Antwerp, Belgium | | | A Bit disappointed in Weather Report
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I recently purchased Heavy Weather. Everbody is always telling how great that album is etc etc, strange thing is, best Weather Report album, well, I don't like it that much. Ofcourse, there is Teen Town (which I'm nailing down currently  ), but the rest of the record is too "mellow" for me, you know what I'm saying? I miss some funk, which I really expected to be on this album. I like Mysterious Traveller much more then Heavy Weather. |
04-22-2005, 03:11 PM
|  | Holy Ghost filled Bass Player Moderator | | Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Heber Springs, Arkansas | | | Didn't like Birdland, huh?
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04-22-2005, 04:06 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Oak Park, MI | | | Go back and listen to HAVONA, that may be some of Jaco's best stuff, and I wouldn't call it Mellow. But I love the Ballads on that Album.
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04-22-2005, 05:14 PM
| | | | The juggler is my favorite track on that album.
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04-22-2005, 05:32 PM
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m Moderator Emeritus | | Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Connecticut | | | I didn't really care for Heavy Weather when I first got it either. But it grew on me like a fungus. |
04-22-2005, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe Turski I didn't really care for Heavy Weather when I first got it either. But it grew on me like a fungus. | I agree with those sentiments. When I first got it almost a year ago I was underwhelmed. Now I listen to two or three songs off it every 3 days or so (which ios very often for me).
Just give it time, and maybe you'll learn to love. 
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04-22-2005, 06:36 PM
|  | C'mon man! | | Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Hawaii | | | Mysterious Traveller has a quiet side to it too.....one of my favorite Weather Report albums! As big a fan I am of Jaco, I always favored the Alphonso Johnson years.
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04-22-2005, 06:39 PM
| | | | I have limited exposure to alphonso except for on the 'live and unreleased' 2-disc. I really like all the tracks he plays on there. One of the grooves knocks me flat each time
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04-23-2005, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by burk48237 Go back and listen to HAVONA, that may be some of Jaco's best stuff, and I wouldn't call it Mellow. But I love the Ballads on that Album. | Aww yeah, can't forget Havona. Some days that is my favorite Jaco tune.
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04-23-2005, 06:26 PM
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04-23-2005, 08:05 PM
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Havona is to me probably the best bass-song recorded ever. |
04-23-2005, 09:12 PM
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04-23-2005, 10:45 PM
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04-24-2005, 10:00 AM
| | | | Heavy Weather clicked with me the very first time I heard it, heck, the very moment Jaco's bass came in during Birdland, I was shedding tears. Best opening track to an album ever.
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04-24-2005, 10:10 AM
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04-25-2005, 03:18 AM
|  | Unprofessional TalkBass Contributor | | Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Brighton, England, UK, Europe | | As a teenager, I bought Mysterious Traveler when it first came out on the recommendation of NME (New Musical Express magazine) - but was bemused and just set it aside as an oddity - when Heavy Weather came out, I wasn't sure, but bought it and it blew me away as exactly what I was expecting - it really hit me as an album ...
But that was a long time ago and I think the vinyl sounded better and it was the early years of polyphonic synths, which sounded great at the time - but listening back, do sound less convincing in hindsight..
I've never liked any of the CD versions of Heavy Weather as much as the vinyl - I think the brightness and clarity of CD makes it all sound too "artificial" - whereas I remember on vinyl it sounded more organic....?
Although it could also be that the person who listened in 1976 is very different to me in the 2000s...
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04-25-2005, 02:03 PM
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Is the reason I picked up a fretless Bass.
Great Album. |
04-26-2005, 02:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Mojo-Man A Remark You made.
Is the reason I picked up a fretless Bass.
Great Album. | I agree - but I think a lot of people don't even hear that as bass - they think it's some kind of Joe Zawinul synth... 
I can remember playing this track to friends and going wow listen to that bass and they're like - what bass?
Jaco's sound in some places was so unexpected for that time, that many people missed it until many years later!
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04-26-2005, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Vorago I recently purchased Heavy Weather. Everbody is always telling how great that album is etc etc, strange thing is, best Weather Report album, well, I don't like it that much. Ofcourse, there is Teen Town (which I'm nailing down currently ), but the rest of the record is too "mellow" for me, you know what I'm saying? I miss some funk, which I really expected to be on this album. I like Mysterious Traveller much more then Heavy Weather. | have you heard black market and tale spinnin? i think those along with mysterious traveller and sweetnighter make up wr best stuff. i really like about half of heavy weather, but i love everything about the 4 albums before it. a lot of bass players get into weather report because of jaco, but make the mistake of not checking out the non jaco stuff. |
04-27-2005, 01:42 AM
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