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Old 06-22-2011, 12:52 AM
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Here's a link to my bandpage. We're Casino we play tech/grindcore type stuff in good ole St. Louis Missouri. This is our first demo. I know it's DEFINITELY not for everyone but check it out:

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Our favorites are Endless Tragedy and In This Sphere but of course listen to them all if you want. If you like what you're hearing feel free to click that little like button at the top there, and if you don't like it feel free to tell me why.

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Old 06-25-2011, 01:31 PM
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Old 06-25-2011, 01:44 PM
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I heard just a little bit, all I can say is the Band is awful! Your playing, on the other hand is really good.
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Old 06-25-2011, 01:59 PM
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Not my kind of music, but you guys would do very well here.
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Old 06-25-2011, 02:01 PM
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I heard just a little bit, all I can say is the Band is awful! Your playing, on the other hand is really good.
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I hate to agree with a guy named Hellbastard, but I do.

The thing for me is the absolute dependency on odd rhythmic structure. It doesn't really work for anyone because music needs to make people feel something. Music like this is too chaotic to really create feeling. It can create chaos and little else. About the only thing it seems to communicate is, "Look how many notes I can play!" If you want heavy and punishing and want to create feel, listen to Constructor by Lamb of God on Wrath. If you want soulless rhythm that still manages to use some odd time but doesn't feel totally chaotic, listen to Bleed from Meshuggah (I forgot the name of the album).
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Old 06-25-2011, 02:05 PM
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I heard just a little bit, all I can say is the Band is awful! Your playing, on the other hand is really good.
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Old 06-25-2011, 02:06 PM
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I can't understand the lyrics? I couldn't determine one word from the whole song. Guess I'm too old!

Best of luck with the band Jacob.....
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Old 06-25-2011, 02:14 PM
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The vocals are a little boring, but otherwise this is pretty sick.
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Hey dude... I think its awesome. The chaotic nature is the point.... this is good road rage music.
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Old 06-25-2011, 02:43 PM
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I hear the point you're trying to make but the songs just fall apart structurally and the monotonous riffs and overall chaos (and heavy compression) cause serious listening fatigue and no artistic impression can ever justify that. What good is music that cannot be listened to properly?

And the songs are way too long and repetitive for the style. You need to have much less chaos and much more defined structure to keep the listener's interest for 5 minutes. There is a reason most grindcore songs are short.

After listening the songs twice I still couldn't memorize a single thing about them. Not a riff, not a rhythm, not a line of lyrics, not a production hook, not a transition from one part to another, nothing. That's my rating style, listen twice and if anything sticks to my brain, there's potential. Others may freely disagree.
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Old 06-25-2011, 02:45 PM
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not my cup of tea , but it dosn't suck! it's not my style of metal so I cant real say if it's good or not, im also not a huge fan of any of the bands listed above, so cant compare.
Best of luck to you guys, and play what you feel, screw the nay sayers lol!!
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Old 06-25-2011, 05:46 PM
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I love the music. Reminds me a bit of Dysrythmia. Not a fan of the vocals, but I rarely am with this style of vocals - just not my thing. Keep up the good work, though - good stuff overall!
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Old 06-25-2011, 06:03 PM
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I would not even classify this as music (and I am a fan of very atonal, arythmic modern classical music). The singer (is that really even singing?) sounds like he swallowed draino.

This is so far off from the heavy metal I enjoyed as a youth as to almost be a separate species.


However, the bass playing is REALLY good! You have great technical skill and ability. Best advise would be to use it in a band where your ability can shine.

Are you playing tapping style in those very fast runs? it sounds amazingly good!
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Old 06-25-2011, 06:44 PM
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From your facebook page: "As soon as they heard his vocals, they knew he was a perfect fit. Well Ok, to each his own. The screaming vocals in some metal bands can be OK but this is kinda laughable. Why?

Anyways I did like some of the bass bits and some of the dynamic shifts you guys employed. My impression of this style of music is that it sounds like doo-doo feces live and indeed it did when I clicked on your video link. The chaotic nature is just really tough to clearly replicate live.
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Old 06-25-2011, 06:55 PM
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Much as I don't like that style of music, that's my taste... I don't think I can give you a reasonable critique of the music since I wouldn't like anyone doing that type of stuff.

But I've got a question... the name of the band... "Casino"... where'd that come from? The style of the band seems 1000 miles removed from what the word "Casino" is. And vice versa... when I think "casino", I think of absolutely nothing that would mesh with your musical style. And the typeface for the logo looks kinda cool all by itself. But the world "casino" doesn't fit that type face. At. All. Am I missing something?
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Old 06-25-2011, 08:20 PM
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I however DO like this kind of music.

Definitely shorten up some of the songs, In This Sphere seemed much too long and I thought the weakest of the lot. I'll Pray Closer to the End was long but didn't feel too long but I think it could be reworked into two of your better songs. I think the vocals are fine, as much as I like all forms of metal and extreme music I dont really place much attention on the vocals, they seem more a necessary evil, thats a critique of the genre as a whole. Until I hear someone do something with this kind of metal thats both different and that fits I don't know what else to do with the vocals, but by genre standards nothing wrong here. It does seem like at times the guitar is struggling to keep up. The bass and drums are pretty tight and I didnt hear any glaring lagging or straying from each other.
I think you just need to really make the guitarist drill the songs, its the weakest point from where I sit, not horrible, he just seems to be lagging behind a tad.

Let grandpa and the musical elitists roll their eyes and say that your band isnt playing music, but that's my two cents.
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I heard just a little bit, all I can say is the Band is awful! Your playing, on the other hand is really good.
Double Plus Good

Also, your logo looks like a barn owl. I love that.
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Old 06-25-2011, 08:27 PM
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Since you asked, I absolutley HATE it! It is probably the worst thing I have ever heard! There is nothing here. Just fast noise that I wouldn't even call playing. It's obvious that the drummer is using triggers on everything. The vocalist, if you want to call him that, just screams to the point that you can't understand a word that he is saying. There is no feel, no melody and the name of the band is very weak. It does not go with the style of music (if you can call it music). Casino? Really? Sounds like you should be playing Wayne Newton, Dean Martin, Frank Sinatra covers.



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Old 06-25-2011, 09:50 PM
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my first thought was the singer was horrible. who knows? he might be able to sing if he tried singing. if you're mates and want to go on with him tell him to work on his craft. all he's doing is screaming. if you love what you do keep at it and things will get more musical. there is very little structure in your tunes. i think you would benefit from learning some covers to influence your songwriting. even a tune like Louie Louie is sophisticated in comparison. IMO very brave of you to stick your neck out here. with your band name have you guys considered doing some Rat Pack tunes? sped up and with heaps of distortion of course! maybe Danke Schoen at 180bpm?
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ah yes, chicks love this kind of music....
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