Dimmu Borgir "In Sorte Diaboli" - Page 2

Matt Till · #21 11-23-2007, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by FrankDV

its not real black metal but i still enjoy listening to it

Note: I am not a big Dimmu Burger fan, decent band, I just don't have any major urge to listen to them: but I have to ask... why?

I like all sorts of Black Metal, and I don't see how they aren't black metal. Is it because more than 3 people have heard of them? Is it because there album wasn't produced in the woods? Do they not worship satan and make music in his name?

Strangely, I prefer the stuff that was produced in the woods.

I think lo fi Black Metal, when done right, has a very cool ambient effect.

FrankDV · #22 11-25-2007, 08:04 AM

[quote=Matt Till;4941471]Note: I am not a big Dimmu Burger fan, decent band, I just don't have any major urge to listen to them: but I have to ask... why?

I like all sorts of Black Metal, and I don't see how they aren't black metal. Is it because more than 3 people have heard of them? Is it because there album wasn't produced in the woods? Do they not worship satan and make music in his name?

Strangely, I prefer the stuff that was produced in the woods.

I think lo fi Black Metal, when done right, has a very cool ambient effect.[/QUOTE

I meant that they're not true norwegian black metal like darkthrone. They're apart of the new wave of black metal which is quite different from the norwegian style which is more raw and brutal in my opinion. Like I said I still love to listen to them, especially the stormblast album. Sorry for my miscomminication. Also sorry for any grammer or spelling errors.

Enmesarra · #23 11-25-2007, 08:06 AM

Not even close to their masterpieces Puritanical and Death Cult but still, a decent album.. IMO

Matt Till · #24 11-25-2007, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by FrankDV

I meant that they're not true norwegian black metal like darkthrone. They're apart of the new wave of black metal which is quite different from the norwegian style which is more raw and brutal in my opinion. Like I said I still love to listen to them, especially the stormblast album. Sorry for my miscomminication. Also sorry for any grammer or spelling errors.

So it's because they are not from Norway and their albums are produced good?

I love Darkthrone, and I don't see a problem with putting them in the same genre as Dimmu Borgir. Black Metal is way too exclusive, the whole scene is kind of a joke. Love the music, don't care for the whole image. (though I like corpse paint, in a... "jokey" sort of way).

metallicarock · #25 11-25-2007, 11:37 AM

no offence, but i h8 black metal they just dress up and scream.

thrash is way betta

Matt Till · #26 11-25-2007, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by metallicarock

no offence, but i h8 black metal they just dress up and scream.

thrash is way betta

Well, no offense, but I hate words like "offence, h8, and betta." But it's all a difference of opinion.

And really, the thrash dress code of tight leather pants and jean jackets... stylish. I don't think we should judge bands by their awful clothes.

FrankDV · #27 11-26-2007, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt Till

So it's because they are not from Norway and their albums are produced good?

I love Darkthrone, and I don't see a problem with putting them in the same genre as Dimmu Borgir. Black Metal is way too exclusive, the whole scene is kind of a joke. Love the music, don't care for the whole image. (though I like corpse paint, in a... "jokey" sort of way).

Norwegian black metal(raw and brutal; no keys) refers to the style not were the band is from. Like I said its not that they're not BM, they're just a newer wave of BM. People also argue wether cradle of filth are BM or not. Same thing applies: they're in the newer wave of BM which sounds nothing like the other style of BM. I consider the two versions of BM to be different genres

AdamR · #28 11-26-2007, 03:12 PM

Its all metal to me. I dont care if its Black, Death, Nu, Old Pink, Purple what ever. As long as it rips, Its all good.

Matt Till · #29 11-26-2007, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by FrankDV

Norwegian black metal(raw and brutal; no keys) refers to the style not were the band is from. Like I said its not that they're not BM, they're just a newer wave of BM. People also argue wether cradle of filth are BM or not. Same thing applies: they're in the newer wave of BM which sounds nothing like the other style of BM. I consider the two versions of BM to be different genres

So, it IS real black metal then. I've had this argument with so many people and it ALWAYS ends the same way. I just think it's weird that is what everyone that is into black metal says the same thing, "They're not really black metal." Then I ask what kind of music they play, the answer is always like, "Newer Black Metal." You understand my confusion, right?

While we are playing the genre game: What is Emperor then? They are innovators in Black Metal, fairly brutal... and they use keys. And for that matter, what is Xasthur? What is Blut Aus Nord? Emit? Deathspell Omega? Bands that fall under the Black Metal umbrella, but all sound really different from each other.

morf · #30 11-26-2007, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by FrankDV

Norwegian black metal(raw and brutal; no keys) refers to the style not were the band is from. Like I said its not that they're not BM, they're just a newer wave of BM. People also argue wether cradle of filth are BM or not. Same thing applies: they're in the newer wave of BM which sounds nothing like the other style of BM. I consider the two versions of BM to be different genres

I agree with this guy to an extent. You can have some keys in Norwegian black metal, but not all over the place, look at Enslaved for example.

neptoon · #31 11-27-2007, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt Till

So it's because they are not from Norway and their albums are produced good?

I love Darkthrone, and I don't see a problem with putting them in the same genre as Dimmu Borgir. Black Metal is way too exclusive, the whole scene is kind of a joke. Love the music, don't care for the whole image. (though I like corpse paint, in a... "jokey" sort of way).

they're all from norway...nick barker was the only exception, but hellhammer is their current drummer...and i totally understand your confusion

when i think of black metal, i think of the satyricon vid of mother north or (though they're actually swedish, not norwegian) the video for secrets of the black arts by dark funeral

VS · #32 11-28-2007, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by neptoon

i'm really digging this album...i liked nick barker's contributions as drummer for 'armageddon' and 'misanthropia' and when i found out hellhammer was going to be stepping in as drummer, all i could do was think about how much i really dig arcturus and how going with him just made sense...i love the serpentine offering, and after hearing 'diaboli' i went out and got the re-release of stormblast...man...great...sorgens kammer rocks...and if you dig shagrath or dimmu in general, he steps in on kamelot's last album for some guest vocals...not a huge contribution, but it really contrasts with khan's style...dimmu rocks

I always enjoy your posts nepoon! I am a huge fan of the Euro-metal scene and no one brings up Arcturus anymore(one of my absolute favorite metal bands). I love this new album. Dimmu really captures your senses. I'm awaiting some new Borknagar as well. Bands like Arcturus,Dimmu Borgir,Borknagar,In Flames,Nightwish,Children of Bodom etc. make me tune out American metal for the most part! Dimmu has come a great distance from their original sound. I love their progression and look forward to a future DVD release. -Luke

neptoon · #33 11-29-2007, 02:37 PM

well, thanks, bro

good to be loved around here...i dig all of those bands, too...i recently watched my first video of arcturus...i totally didn't see that coming at all...everythign was white and they were wearing old theater masks...it was pretty odd, but all of those guys are awesome musicians...have you heard the kamelot tune march of mephisto with shagrath? pretty cool video and khan is the total antithesis of shagrath...it's a pretty good contrast between styles...it would be cool to see some more dimmu vids that tie all of the songs together, especially with this new album being a concept album...the stories/parallels, or mockeries, rather, behind the sacriligious scorn video is pretty interesting...yeah, i dig dimmu...

cassanova · #34 11-29-2007, 04:46 PM

Get past the cheese in the beginning and this is a good interview with Vortex

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_DmhgGOUY00

metallicarock · #35 01-03-2008, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt Till

Well, no offense, but I hate words like "offence, h8, and betta." But it's all a difference of opinion.

And really, the thrash dress code of tight leather pants and jean jackets... stylish. I don't think we should judge bands by their awful clothes.

i suppose ur right, it does depend on opinons.

Valerus · #36 01-03-2008, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt Till

I like all sorts of Black Metal, and I don't see how they aren't black metal. Is it because more than 3 people have heard of them? Is it because there album wasn't produced in the woods? Do they not worship satan and make music in his name?

Anything else ISN'T BLACK METALLL

Just kidding.

I didn't know people on TB liked Black Metal. This is a pleasant surprise.