Do You Like Metallica? - Page 3

Mon Rominee · #41 10-15-2007, 06:40 AM

Gee, I feel bad that Matt was just being coy and really didn't care if we liked Metallica or not.

mlowe · #42 10-15-2007, 07:31 AM

Late appreciator but they're growing on me. The movie they made helped me understand them a lot more. Lars imo is a total spanner but the guitarist was pretty impressive both in ability and attitude. As for Robby, he's always been a bass player I've followed and liked during his Suicidal & Infectious Grooves days.

He's proof you don't need a pick........

GregC · #43 10-15-2007, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by 4StringFury

Each to his own captain tim. I just hate James and Lars becuase of the way they are as people.

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Originally Posted by Mark Latimour

And you like Yngwie?

Not to mention, ICP?

Alan Vorse · #44 10-15-2007, 08:35 AM

Master of Puppets is close to perfect. The rest...pass.

**MAJOR METAL** · #45 10-15-2007, 10:06 AM

Why is this in off topic ? To answer your question I love Metallica's material from Kill em All to Saint Anger and I cant wait to hear what they do next.

xlows · #46 10-15-2007, 10:13 AM

I can't stand the vocals at all. Every word DOES NOT END WITH -ah! That-ah is-ah why-ah I-ah will-ah never-ah be-ah able-to-ah deal-ah with-ah them-ah. That alone. Well, that and the fact that i find their music to be pretty tasteless and dull.

IanStephenson · #47 10-15-2007, 10:22 AM

I have a theory that really no one ever liked metallica as they were at the time... What I mean is that they're a band that were past their best before they were REALLY famous.

In they 80's they had a small following, but even in the mainstream rock/metal circuit they were pretty unpopular. Then all of a sudden in the 90's they were huge, but again no one actually liked what they were doing - everyone was going on about how they USED to be good, but the new stuff was lame, even though when they were doing that stuff no one liked it.

I guess what I'm trying to say (badly) is that unlike most bands that have a formative period, a golden era where they're sucsessfull, and then a slow decline where they cost on hits from the golden era, Metallica went straight from wannabe's to downhill, with their new found fans pretending that they'd always liked them. If there was an era when Metallica were unconditionally sucsessfull, it started with Enter Sandman, and ended 4 1/2 minutes later.

Ian

Lorenzini · #48 10-15-2007, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by IanStephenson

I have a theory that really no one ever liked metallica as they were at the time... What I mean is that they're a band that were past their best before they were REALLY famous.

In they 80's they had a small following, but even in the mainstream rock/metal circuit they were pretty unpopular. Then all of a sudden in the 90's they were huge, but again no one actually liked what they were doing - everyone was going on about how they USED to be good, but the new stuff was lame, even though when they were doing that stuff no one liked it.

I guess what I'm trying to say (badly) is that unlike most bands that have a formative period, a golden era where they're sucsessfull, and then a slow decline where they cost on hits from the golden era, Metallica went straight from wannabe's to downhill, with their new found fans pretending that they'd always liked them. If there was an era when Metallica were unconditionally sucsessfull, it started with Enter Sandman, and ended 4 1/2 minutes later.

Ian

To answer the OP, I don't like Metallica, but there is no denying their popularity or power in the music industry.

To quote Wikipedia: "The band has sold more than 90 million records worldwide,[2][3] including 57 million albums in the United States alone.[4][5]"

Now to me that sounds like success, no matter which way you look at it.

professor_bills · #49 10-15-2007, 10:41 AM

So if no one ever really likes them..maybe thats why they were so instrumental in shutting down NAPSTER? Maybe they felt it was NAPSTER's fault they only sold millions of albums instead of billions.

NoNoise · #50 10-15-2007, 11:51 AM

I'm not a fan of anything Metallica has done, personally. If I want metal, Metallica is neither heavy nor fast enough, and the metal I listen to has to be at least one of those.

BELLATOR · #51 10-15-2007, 11:56 AM

Kill em All was a decent thrash album but if I want to listen to thrash I would listen to Testament any day of the week.

johnnycat42 · #52 10-15-2007, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by IanStephenson

I have a theory that really no one ever liked metallica as they were at the time... What I mean is that they're a band that were past their best before they were REALLY famous.

In they 80's they had a small following, but even in the mainstream rock/metal circuit they were pretty unpopular. Then all of a sudden in the 90's they were huge, but again no one actually liked what they were doing - everyone was going on about how they USED to be good, but the new stuff was lame, even though when they were doing that stuff no one liked it.

I guess what I'm trying to say (badly) is that unlike most bands that have a formative period, a golden era where they're sucsessfull, and then a slow decline where they cost on hits from the golden era, Metallica went straight from wannabe's to downhill, with their new found fans pretending that they'd always liked them. If there was an era when Metallica were unconditionally sucsessfull, it started with Enter Sandman, and ended 4 1/2 minutes later.

Ian

There is some truth to this. Most Metallica fans would admit the best stuff was done in the 80's when they had a smaller die hard fan base. Then "One" broke them into the mainstream enough to let the Black Album fully breakthrough. (Justice is a great album IMHO) But in reality, the Black Album was their last really good album. The Black Album then proceded to introduce many people to the great 80's Metallica work that they missed out on. But to me, that was really it. After that, they really have been living off of Kill Em All, Ride the Lightning, Master of Puppets, And Justice For All, and the Black Album. Only a very few highlights since then.

But really, that is alot of really good work to fall back on.

tplyons · #53 10-15-2007, 06:28 PM

Reload got me into Metallica, Load got me to love Metallica, and the old stuff gave me a stiff neck. I still love 'em, especially the old stuff on Ride the Lightning and Master of Puppets, but Load and Reload have a special place in my heart.

Matt Till · #54 10-15-2007, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by MAJOR METAL

Why is this in off topic ? To answer your question I love Metallica's material from Kill em All to Saint Anger and I cant wait to hear what they do next.

Yo, you must not have caught the post I made explaining this thread was a parody of another off topic thread. The "Do you like Rap" one. This thread can be deleted... or everyone can keep debating Metallica. I don't really care...

sensible68 · #55 10-16-2007, 02:33 PM

I liked One, it's all I've heard by them but I think Hellbastard did that kinda thing better on "Heading for internal darkness".

Their non-musical output is very entertaining though. was 'only the documentaries' a poll option?

**Eric Perry** · #56 10-16-2007, 02:37 PM

Like most of the music... Cannot stand *them*, however.

If I wanted any Metallica music, I'd probably be downloading it.

Baryonyx · #57 10-16-2007, 02:58 PM

Yes, I feel like Metallica are a band I can rely on to consistently "pull it off" and make amazing music.

mattofash · #58 10-17-2007, 03:30 AM

I can appreciate what theyve done for music but they just bore the **** outa me

22w1st3d · #59 10-17-2007, 04:06 AM

to me the albums up to and including black were great. at least 90% of the songs from that era are awesome in their own right.

then hello Load.

the only songs ive liked in the last 10 years are Fuel, and the first halves of Some Kind Of Monster and St. Anger. the rest to me is utter mainstream pleasing, self indulgent crap. their egos and their bad relationships have destroyed the band. just look at the SKOM doco.

their upcoming album could be the final step towards their career in my eyes. if its another st. anger, then they may as well pack it in now. hopefully rick rubin and rob trujillo can shrink the giant heads of lars and james.

f'nar f'nar · #60 10-17-2007, 04:08 AM

I used to love them. I still think they are a quality band but I guess I just 'over listened' a little bit. My album rundown goes like this:

Kill 'em All: not many bands have a first album this good! Songs like seek and destroy and whiplash really rock my socks off and were pure metal! Even the lesser known tracks like Phantom Lord and Metal Millitia where very good songs and I loved them all! I honestly think that the intro to hit the lights has yet to be outdone as an album opener, it's perfect.

Ride the Lightning: Awesome album! Great mixture of thrash and melody especially when you compare the symphonic melodies of Call of Kthulu to the raw thrashyness of Fight Fire With Fire and Trapped Under Ice. Classic songs like Fade to Black and For Whom the Bell Tolls really underlined what metallica where all about: writing songs that rocked as hard as they flowed melodically. Great.

Master of Puppets: Ride the Lightning but BETTER! THE PERFECT mixture of that straight up thrash and sweet melodies demonstrated clearly in Battery which I see as a refined and polished Fight Fire With Fire, just a hell of a lot better. Unlike Ride the Lightning which had songs that where either Melody based or Thrash based (even when they tried to combine them it still sounded like they just stopped one song and started another) the songs on this album combine both. And of course this song had THE Metallica song, Master of Puppets: whilst I think the song now to be a bit boring because everyone knows and plays it, it still remains a great song perfectly outlining what Metallica where about. I compare it in a way to Smoke on the Water, everyone knows how to play it and it's overplayed ALL THE TIME, but it doesn't make it any less of a fantastic song.

And Justice For All: My favourite album. I don't know why. Maybe it's because I'm a progressive metal man myself and this album definately had a more progressive feel, the closest thing metallica ever came to a concept album. You could tell that this album was really pushing the limits of Metallica's abilities i.e: the length of And Justice For All, the drums on Dyers Eve and Kirks solo masterpieces in Blackened, One and Dyers Eve. I really do love this album. Although it was probably the defining point when Metallica lost their 'Thrash' and moved to a more... (i hesitate to say) 'Mainstream' metal style. Which I didn't mind one little bit. On a side note the And Justice tour was increadible, they really started to become a performing band around this time.

Metallica (The 'Black' Album): Music for the masses I find. I think that they saw the comercial success they had recieved from and Justice for All and just made it a little more 'public friendly'. That being said I still enjoy this album especially the intro of Wherever I May Roam, very experimental (for them) and perfectly compliments the rest of the song. Other songs where great like Through the Never and Of Wolf and Man. Other songs not so great, The Struggle Within was just... out of place and Enter Sandman... well that signaled the beginning of the end, I'm not a person who says "Oh this band sold out, I hate them" but I do recognise that when a band hits the comercial success they did with Enter Sandman they tend to enjoy and want more of the same.

Load: Well. I don't know. To be honest its got some fantastic Melodic songs on it but its a bit Nickelback. Until it Sleeps was probably as heavy as they got on that album and thats saying something. Something bad. At this point METALlica had become ROCKtallica. The only thing metal about them was some of Kirks solo's and their guitars.

Reload: See Load. Although, Fuel was a wicked song. I'm a big car fan and this song really does sum it all up for me. In all, this was a bit of a redneck album. You knew exactly where James was from when you listened to Unforgiven II. And whats with the re-use of song names here?

Garage Inc.: Fantastic Album. Why? Probably because they didn't write any songs and they basically just added their flair to some classic old metal and punk classics. For a moment when I listened to Last Caress and Green Hell I felt nostalgic!

St. Anger: Well heres where I tend to vary from the normal 'fans' of Metallica. I actually liked this album. I think that the only reason everyone hates it is because it was Metallica who did it, and it was so wildly different from all their other stuff. Fans had only just got settled with their Load/ReLoad style and Metallica shook it all up again. I think if you listen to it and don't compare it to their other stuff you may actually enjoy the album. Everyone says that the drums and guitar sound crap BUT the drums lines IMO are much better than in Load etc. and if you listen to other great bands out there they have som shambollick sounding snares as well (best drum sound in the world= either Pantera or Opeth, no question). Anywho, I think songs like St. Anger and even The Unnamed Feeling where great songs, not great Metallica songs but good songs!

Thats my feelings anyway.