Down and Dirty Dub - Poor Boy rough (check my mix)

[Georynn]

Originally Posted by lowendgenerator

I can't wait to hear it get dubbed out!

Yeah.. for sure!

[standupright]

Originally Posted by MakiSupaStar

Thanks man. That's cool that you went through the trouble. Yeah, I listened to it. It sound a little duller during the intro part and then kind of the same when it kicks in. It's strange though. I'm on my laptop with little ipod head phones and the mp3 that I originally created sounds a lot dirtier than the original AIF that I had. I'm wondering if those noisy pops got all screwed up during the compression. I'm going to tweak with it a little tonight. See what I can do. I might hit you up and send you the loop. Would you want it to be the length of the track or would just a few passes through the loop suffice?

So based upon what I've read here today, the vinyl pops and clicks are just a little too dirty and noisy. Is that the general consensus?

i love everything about that track.....the music, the instruments, the vibe, the groove, and the intentional dirty clicks and pops. awesome.

[MakiSupaStar]

Originally Posted by standupright

i love everything about that track.....the music, the instruments, the vibe, the groove, and the intentional dirty clicks and pops. awesome.

Cool man. Thanks. I think I'm gonna leave it alone and then mess with it again after I've recorded our DJ. At that point we'll both go over it and see what we can do.

[Nyarlathotep]

The clicks and pops only really take center stage in the 1st few seconds. After that they nicely blend with the hi-hat (I think that's a hi-hat )

I likes

[standupright]

Originally Posted by MakiSupaStar

Cool man. Thanks. I think I'm gonna leave it alone and then mess with it again after I've recorded our DJ. At that point we'll both go over it and see what we can do.

i've got this disk "dub side of the moon" by the easy star all stars. lots of great dub versions of pink floyd (if you like pink floyd)

you can get it here - http://www.amazon.com/Side-Moon-Easy.../dp/B00008A7U9

listen - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaR4fsUeTVY

[MakiSupaStar]

Originally Posted by standupright

i've got this disk "dub side of the moon" by the easy star all stars. lots of great dub versions of pink floyd (if you like pink floyd)

you can get it here - http://www.amazon.com/Side-Moon-Easy.../dp/B00008A7U9

listen - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaR4fsUeTVY

Oh yeah. That's a great album I've got it. You should also check out Easy Star All Star's "Radiodread" album. It's amazing. They did Radiohead's "Ok Computer" album in dub. They have some great musicians playing on it and Toots sings a song on it. Great stuff. Listen to Karma Police. That song gives me chills.

Interesting story. I met the guitarist that tours with Easy Star All Stars on the way to Vegas. He was wearing an Easy Star All Stars shirt, and I asked him where he got it. We instantly started talking about reggae and he was cool enough to take my demo from my old band. He hit back my band on myspace with a big up, and said he'd keep us in mind if they swung through and needed an opener band. (Nothing ever happened, of course) but he didn't need to do that. Cool dude.

[One Drop]

Wow, great work MakiSupaStar!

Tons of meat and plenty of gravy for the DJ to Dub.

Personally, I hate clicking and popping on a recording; one of the great joys for me of so many of the old tracks being remastered and re-released is hearing how good and clean the original masters could be, and your sounds are awesome and should be heard in their glory. Just an aesthetic opinion, I can see what you are going for, but the idea might work better if you were going for more of an antique lo-fi sound in general on a '60s style track and not on a clean pumping early '80s style stepper. Here instead of warmth it just seems like a well recorded album that has been played to death, IMO.

The bubbling organ is just right in the mix- it shouldn't be heard too clearly and instead just adds counter-rhythmic goodness and texture.

My favorite version is the first- with a drop of the highest frequencies on the hi-hat filtered it will be just right, I think.

One major thing on all the versions: the bass drum is way too thumpy and moves too much air. If you clean and tighten it up a bit it won't run over the bass as it is now. At first I thought the bass was mixed a tad too low, but it's the bass drum that is obscuring that great line. On a Sound System that drum will run over everything (it does on my both my Sennheiser and Grado headphones): cleaner it will still pump like mad and let all the other instruments breathe much more.

I love the track, the sounds of all the instruments, the bass (rich, textured, punchy, clear and deep, real sweet), and the interaction between them. There is enough in there for a thousand dub mixes!

[MakiSupaStar]

Originally Posted by One Drop

Wow, great work MakiSupaStar!

Tons of meat and plenty of gravy for the DJ to Dub.

Personally, I hate clicking and popping on a recording; one of the great joys for me of so many of the old tracks being remastered and re-released is hearing how good and clean the original masters could be, and your sounds are awesome and should be heard in their glory. Just an aesthetic opinion, I can see what you are going for, but the idea might work better if you were going for more of an antique lo-fi sound in general on a '60s style track and not on a clean pumping early '80s style stepper. Here instead of warmth it just seems like a well recorded album that has been played to death, IMO.

The bubbling organ is just right in the mix- it shouldn't be heard too clearly and instead just adds counter-rhythmic goodness and texture.

My favorite version is the first- with a drop of the highest frequencies on the hi-hat filtered it will be just right, I think.

One major thing on all the versions: the bass drum is way too thumpy and moves too much air. If you clean and tighten it up a bit it won't run over the bass as it is now. At first I thought the bass was mixed a tad too low, but it's the bass drum that is obscuring that great line. On a Sound System that drum will run over everything (it does on my both my Sennheiser and Grado headphones): cleaner it will still pump like mad and let all the other instruments breathe much more.

I love the track, the sounds of all the instruments, the bass (rich, textured, punchy, clear and deep, real sweet), and the interaction between them. There is enough in there for a thousand dub mixes!

Thanks dude. You pointed out the thing that I am least satisfied with on this thing. That confounded kick drum. I'll tinker with it. Perhaps a little bass reduction on the track, and or some compression. Thanks for the listen.

[MakiSupaStar]

Ok last time. I swear. I tightened up the kick drum hits. I think. Meeting my DJ buddy Sunday. This is the version he's getting.

Down and Dirty Dub - Poor Boy(predj)v4

[Joe Gress]

Originally Posted by MakiSupaStar

Ok last time. I swear. I tightened up the kick drum hits. I think. Meeting my DJ buddy Sunday. This is the version he's getting.

Down and Dirty Dub - Poor Boy(predj)v4

Listening to it right now. Still sounds good. The drums are a little tighter this time.

I would love to hear what your DJ does with this.

[Deluge Of Sound]

Originally Posted by MakiSupaStar

Ok last time. I swear. I tightened up the kick drum hits. I think. Meeting my DJ buddy Sunday. This is the version he's getting.

Down and Dirty Dub - Poor Boy(predj)v4

Finally got a chance to listen to it, and it sounds great!

A little too uptempo for my taste, but I can see a lot of possibilities for your DJ, and after all, that's the whole point.

You can also put me firmly in the camp that thinks the clicks and pops add to the vibe.

[One Drop]

Much better now, nice mix.

The DJ will have a ball with this track.