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06-12-2006, 01:27 PM
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I was talking to a guy at school today(a guitarist guy who I dont particularly like, and I only talk to him because of stuff we have in common music wise)
and he said that "dragonforce solos are sped up, there is no way you can play that fast and that clean, they can play that fast live, but just not as cleanly"
Do you guys agree with this?
anyway, how does speeding up work? do they just detune their guitars to compensate for the speeding up?
I know there is a speed up without changing pitch option on audacity, but its a bit dodgy and doesnt keep the pitch completely the same | 
06-13-2006, 03:56 AM
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06-13-2006, 09:30 AM
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I've seen em live and they play their songs just like on the albums. | 
06-13-2006, 11:11 AM
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06-13-2006, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Twistad No.
I've seen em live and they play their songs just like on the albums. | I concur my man. I've seen them a few times live and its pretty much exactly as the recording.
However when i saw them i did notice it took them a few songs to really gel. Its so fast that i cant imagine being able to keep with it! | 
06-13-2006, 02:37 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada | | Maybe the combination of synth guitar with the high-speed playing makes it sound sped up. They do you use synth/MIDI guitars, right? I can't imagine Ibanez making Nintendo-Wound Humbuckers.
The guitar signal is, at the very LEAST, highly processed if not synthesized to begin with.
On a side note: Couldn't Garrett Wang and Herman Li be brothers? I probably need glasses.
Garrett Wang: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garrett_Wang
Herman Li: http://www.dragonforce.com/herman_li.php
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06-13-2006, 03:42 PM
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06-13-2006, 03:49 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Sweden, Stockholm | | | Yeh, exactly, Herman is lightning fast, wether hes human or not is another thing^^ But seriously, Dragonforce play great live, seen some vids^^ | 
12-01-2006, 07:58 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: London, UK | | | Hmmm, well I happen to know the guys personally... and there might be a *little* bit of funny business going on with the way they record... BUT... my lips are sealed!! | 
12-01-2006, 09:08 AM
| | | | Well, I have a friend who won a contest for playing the best solo, and he says, they are somewhat as good live as in the studio. | 
12-01-2006, 09:23 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: London, UK | | Yeah, they tend to be *nearly* up to speed by the time they play live, and they do play live a hell of a lot, so you'd expect it. I'm just giving an honest answer, and I happen to know for a fact, that's all...  | 
12-01-2006, 09:48 AM
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12-01-2006, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Grimlock Maybe the combination of synth guitar with the high-speed playing makes it sound sped up. They do you use synth/MIDI guitars, right? I can't imagine Ibanez making Nintendo-Wound Humbuckers.
The guitar signal is, at the very LEAST, highly processed if not synthesized to begin with.
On a side note: Couldn't Garrett Wang and Herman Li be brothers? I probably need glasses.
Garrett Wang: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garrett_Wang
Herman Li: http://www.dragonforce.com/herman_li.php | Their signal is heavily processed, and Herman tends to abuse his Whammy pedal which makes it sound very much like a keyboard lead. Unless you're just getting confused with the keys solo  I don't know if they speed it up but they probably do other things to reduce noise (taping up strings, scrunchies on the neck etc) whilst recording.
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12-01-2006, 03:48 PM
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12-01-2006, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris2112 It's not that they're sped up, they just seem to be completely lacking in fresh ideas.  | '
they are somewhat original, they are very talented and technical, the best thing is, it is something more then the power chords of todays music.
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12-02-2006, 12:14 AM
| | | | They're nots sped up. They don't do as well live because they're drunk. If your friend thinks that Dragonforce is sped up, then he probably hasn't been exposed to enough pretentious lead guitarists. Which is probably better for his long term health anyway. | 
12-02-2006, 12:55 AM
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12-02-2006, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by truckin88 '
they are somewhat original, they are very talented and technical, the best thing is, it is something more then the power chords of todays music. | There are a lot of bands who play a similar style but do it (IMO) a lot better. However, they don't have the profile that Dragonforce have outside of mainland Europe. Dragonforce are selling out large venues and getting more kids into power metal and for that I salute them 
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12-02-2006, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by ALiP BoB | That video hurt!
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12-02-2006, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by velvetkevorkian There are a lot of bands who play a similar style but do it (IMO) a lot better. However, they don't have the profile that Dragonforce have outside of mainland Europe. Dragonforce are selling out large venues and getting more kids into power metal and for that I salute them  |
he is gonna say "in flames" I know it, dragonforce's one guitarist from a technical and speed point of view is hands down amazing.
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