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Old 04-02-2009, 11:37 AM
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Anybody know how the bassist is getting this type of growl? First I thought he was slapping a Rick, but it's not a rick and he's using a pick.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1HQ7Fo2Uvg
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Old 04-02-2009, 11:40 AM
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Oh man I LOVE this song...

Sounds like a Stingray to me.
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Old 04-02-2009, 11:42 AM
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Looking at the headstock, it doesn't look like a stingray....
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Old 04-02-2009, 11:46 AM
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Kinda looks like an ibanez headstock! From what i can recall the bassist for that band used an Alembic Essence a lot.
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Old 04-02-2009, 11:47 AM
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Wiki states that he used a Zon and also an Aria in the early days. It is the wiki...so take it for what it's worth.
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Old 04-02-2009, 11:53 AM
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It's not a Ray. Billy used some strange off brand of bass-someone on TB knows-my guess
if memory serves, is Aria Pro, Washburn or Tune, something LIKE that. He also played through
Peavey amps....and lots of em'
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Old 04-02-2009, 12:02 PM
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Looks like an Aria Pro to me...

I think i read once that he used one rig for his clean sound and another for the dirty stuff both through Peavey cabs and for songs like this he ran both rigs simultaneously, of course i could be wrong.
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it is an Aria pro II, Integra IIRC.
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It's not a Ray. Billy used some strange off brand of bass-someone on TB knows-my guess
if memory serves, is Aria Pro, Washburn or Tune, something LIKE that. He also played through
Peavey amps....and lots of em'
It is an Aria Pro. And CRANKED Peavey amps. Gould said he loved Peavey stuff because it broke up so nicely when pushed hard.

He switched to Zons later, I believe for the King For a Day, Fool for A Lifetime album and onward.

One of my favorite bassists.
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Looks like an Aria Pro to me...
Concur.
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It's an Aria pro II integra..people.



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Old 04-02-2009, 12:20 PM
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Yo! Alembic...you sure know your Billy Gould

Thanks for the pics, as soon as i saw the headstock i knew it was an Aria!
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As far as technique goes, I think he's picking VERY hard pretty close to the bridge. Maybe within an inch or so, just striking 'em really hard with some compression, and the Peavy heads cranked as mentioned before.
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I thought he was slapping
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Old 04-02-2009, 07:26 PM
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I thought he was slapping
Honestly, it sounds like it. I guess I got sucked in by that first post.

The video sort of looks like he's picking. On that part, the video never shows him clearly. The best you get is at about 1:15, but his back's to the camera. At the very end, he's obviously not picking, but he

Dunno... I take it back... He probably is slapping very hard near the bridge.

Also, it sounds like he probably has a bit of phase shifter or something like that going during the song, and certainly at the end.
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Old 04-03-2009, 08:44 AM
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Yeah, Billy definitely PICKS on Epic, except for the very end, during the outro...I think the sound is achieved by picking real hard at the P pickup (he used a P/J config in those days) or between the P pup and the neck. And it was an Aria Pro II SB-Integra for the album version, but the Chile '91 video was a later model Integra, pictured a few posts above. I have both of these basses and they definitely sound different from each other...
I can't wait to see Billy playing the song live again!
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I can get that sound with my SVT CL on any kind of bass. He just had the treble pretty high and mids high it sounded like
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yeah definately an Aria,i did read that Cliff introduced him to them back in the day,also he used an Ibanez tube screamer pedal.
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and a dod flanger.....epic is a pick tons of live vids
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