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04-02-2009, 11:37 AM
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Anybody know how the bassist is getting this type of growl? First I thought he was slapping a Rick, but it's not a rick and he's using a pick. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1HQ7Fo2Uvg
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04-02-2009, 11:40 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: New Westminster, BC | | | Oh man I LOVE this song...
Sounds like a Stingray to me.
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04-02-2009, 11:42 AM
| | | | Looking at the headstock, it doesn't look like a stingray....
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04-02-2009, 11:46 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Pittsburgh | | | Kinda looks like an ibanez headstock! From what i can recall the bassist for that band used an Alembic Essence a lot. | 
04-02-2009, 11:47 AM
| | | | Wiki states that he used a Zon and also an Aria in the early days. It is the wiki...so take it for what it's worth.
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04-02-2009, 11:53 AM
| | | | It's not a Ray. Billy used some strange off brand of bass-someone on TB knows-my guess
if memory serves, is Aria Pro, Washburn or Tune, something LIKE that. He also played through
Peavey amps....and lots of em' | 
04-02-2009, 12:02 PM
| | | | Looks like an Aria Pro to me...
I think i read once that he used one rig for his clean sound and another for the dirty stuff both through Peavey cabs and for songs like this he ran both rigs simultaneously, of course i could be wrong.
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04-02-2009, 12:04 PM
|  | quid verum atque decens Builder: Rickett Customs | | Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Southern Maryland | | | it is an Aria pro II, Integra IIRC. | 
04-02-2009, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by NOVAX It's not a Ray. Billy used some strange off brand of bass-someone on TB knows-my guess
if memory serves, is Aria Pro, Washburn or Tune, something LIKE that. He also played through
Peavey amps....and lots of em' | It is an Aria Pro. And CRANKED Peavey amps. Gould said he loved Peavey stuff because it broke up so nicely when pushed hard.
He switched to Zons later, I believe for the King For a Day, Fool for A Lifetime album and onward.
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04-02-2009, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by RONQUITO Looks like an Aria Pro to me... | Concur.
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04-02-2009, 12:11 PM
|  | quid verum atque decens Builder: Rickett Customs | | Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Southern Maryland | | | It's an Aria pro II integra..people. | 
04-02-2009, 12:20 PM
| | | | Yo! Alembic...you sure know your Billy Gould
Thanks for the pics, as soon as i saw the headstock i knew it was an Aria!
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04-02-2009, 02:08 PM
| | | | Confirmation. FWIW I love Peavey stuff period. People who poo poo
it are just ignorant in the truest sense of the word: ignoring the
bold face fact that Peavey gear is durable, economical,
and musically colorful in a genuine rock and roll way.
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04-02-2009, 06:13 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Santa Barbara | | | As far as technique goes, I think he's picking VERY hard pretty close to the bridge. Maybe within an inch or so, just striking 'em really hard with some compression, and the Peavy heads cranked as mentioned before. | 
04-02-2009, 06:53 PM
| | | | I thought he was slapping
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04-02-2009, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve! I thought he was slapping | Honestly, it sounds like it. I guess I got sucked in by that first post.
The video sort of looks like he's picking. On that part, the video never shows him clearly. The best you get is at about 1:15, but his back's to the camera. At the very end, he's obviously not picking, but he
Dunno... I take it back... He probably is slapping very hard near the bridge.
Also, it sounds like he probably has a bit of phase shifter or something like that going during the song, and certainly at the end. | 
04-03-2009, 08:44 AM
|  | Registered User | | | | | Yeah, Billy definitely PICKS on Epic, except for the very end, during the outro...I think the sound is achieved by picking real hard at the P pickup (he used a P/J config in those days) or between the P pup and the neck. And it was an Aria Pro II SB-Integra for the album version, but the Chile '91 video was a later model Integra, pictured a few posts above. I have both of these basses and they definitely sound different from each other...
I can't wait to see Billy playing the song live again! | 
04-03-2009, 08:55 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Fredericksburg | | | I can get that sound with my SVT CL on any kind of bass. He just had the treble pretty high and mids high it sounded like | 
04-03-2009, 09:02 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Australia | | | yeah definately an Aria,i did read that Cliff introduced him to them back in the day,also he used an Ibanez tube screamer pedal. | 
04-04-2009, 01:33 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Michigan | | | and a dod flanger.....epic is a pick tons of live vids
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