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12-20-2007, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by mlowe busta move, one of fleas less busy and more musical works. | Yep, that's a great one. Also, "White Lines" by Grandmaster Flash is just awesome.
I, too, am confused by discounting the Beastie Boys. License to Ill came out in 1984. No, it's not the 70's "original" rappers like Sugarhill Gang, but they are about as "classic" as rap gets. | 
12-20-2007, 08:17 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Torrance, CA | | | Man. Bust a Move is still one of my favorite rap bass lines. That song stands the test of time! And I always forget that it was Flea who did it.
That reminds me since Young MC was at the 2006 Nike Run Hit Remix (a fun run where you run from stage to stage and see artists perform). At this year's Remix we had Naughty by Nature, Sugarhill Gang, Sir Mix-A-Lot, and... MC Hammer! It was a "classic hip hop" fiesta, for sure. Naughty by Nature's producer sampled some great bass lines back in the day: "Ghetto Bastard," "Hip Hop Hooray," "Uptown Anthem," "O.P.P.," "Feel Me Flow," the list goes on... Funny how a group that could come up with such catchy party tunes could be so angry at the same time. | 
12-20-2007, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by mlowe busta move, one of fleas less busy and more musical works. | He got paid around $200, and that was it... 
Poor Flea. I hope he landed on his feet after that... 
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12-20-2007, 08:23 PM
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12-20-2007, 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by wdinc01 I really like House of Pain's 'I'm a Swing-it' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3E2XnLSlMYg
I wouldn't call it famous, although it was on a soundtrack of a Tony Hawk's Pro Skater game, so people have listened to it. Other than that, I guess that Eminem song is famous. | aah, tony hawks pro skater 3 all over again. | 
12-20-2007, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by olaff421 The Humpty Dance from Digital Underground. | +100!
that's just a MONSTER bassline
a lot of hip hop basslines are sampled tho. somebody mentioned Eric B and Rakim.. that's sampled from Don't Look Any Further by Dennis Edwards
i really like this bassline... Jay Z - Ain't No N***a http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSUwGKoJcYU
also Wrektime by Smif n Wessun http://www.amazon.com/Dah-Shinin-Smi...8208365&sr=1-5
anybody know if/where the Humpty Dance bass line is sampled from? | 
12-20-2007, 08:53 PM
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12-20-2007, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by southshoreconor can't believe no one's said "ice ice baby"  | Which of course IS a great older bass line from Queen & D.Bowie's "Under Pressure"
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12-20-2007, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Infernal Affair However, people have mentioned artists much newer than the Beastie Boys like Warren G, yet Beastie Boys seem to be an exception as "not classic." LL Cool J was active just a couple years prior to Licensed to Ill  (released 1986), yet he didn't start churning out his most famous songs ("I Need Love," "Going Back to Cali," "Momma Said Knock You Out," the list goes on) until after 87. | I never said that the Beastie Boys weren't Classic. I actually was agreeing with you in my initial post and confirming that by saying that they were around during the same time frame as the artists that I mentioned. Here's a Classic track from them in my opinion but it doesn't include much bass..... Paul Revere
As for LL Cool J, the tunes you named are cool but here's my fave from him. Again, not much bass.... Rock The Bells Quote:
Originally Posted by Infernal Affair I would understand this if we're talking about Grandmaster Flash, Run DMC, Sugarhill Gang, etc., obviously pioneers in the art, or a certain stylistic element prevalent in the albums mentioned (soul/r&b/funk inspired), but on a timeline the Beasties are fairly old. |  Lost me here as I never disagreed with you. Quote:
Originally Posted by Infernal Affair Beastie Boys are older than that, too... | Check yourself. That quote about The Humpty Dance was not posted by me. Quote:
Originally Posted by Infernal Affair Pardon me if I'm drawing up wild assumptions, but I think it seems like the Beastie Boys are being discounted as "not classic" because they're white. If I'm wrong then I apologize. | Please apologize.... Quote:
Originally Posted by Infernal Affair I'm not a huge Beastie Boys fan, but I've seen them as a pretty big influence on rap music despite the fact that many discount them. (And yes, I know that House of Pain has also been mentioned.) Maybe I'm just confused as to what "classic" is supposed to mean. Are we talking soul/funk/r&b inspired bass lines that are commonly used in rap? If so, then this can lead into JAQUO III-X's thread on "original basslines in hip hop." | No argument from me here....
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12-20-2007, 09:13 PM
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12-21-2007, 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by rodl2005 Which of course IS a great older bass line from Queen & D.Bowie's "Under Pressure" | hence the big smile. | 
12-21-2007, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ebozzz Check yourself. That quote about The Humpty Dance was not posted by me. | I'm really sorry man. I misquoted you when combining the original posts, and misinterpreted olaff421's post as yours because they were next to each other. I actually didn't mean to confront you as it really seems like I'm debating with you specifically even though you didn't say anything opposing what I originally wrote. My beef is mainly with the original poster, who never really explained himself why Beastie Boys wouldn't be considered classic. I went back and edited my post to correct things, but just for the sake of other forum members who are reading this thread, I mixed up ebozzz and olaff421 and wrongly misinterpreted what he was saying in one of his original posts.
And "Rock the Bells" is an awesome song. LL really was unstoppable in his hey day. Nowadays when I hear that "can I hit it somemore" club song it makes me sad, but I guess artists have to reinvent themselves to maintain position in popular music. Madonna is a good example of that. | 
12-21-2007, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Infernal Affair I'm really sorry man. I misquoted you when combining the original posts, and misinterpreted olaff421's post as yours because they were next to each other. I actually didn't mean to confront you as it really seems like I'm debating with you specifically even though you didn't say anything opposing what I originally wrote. My beef is mainly with the original poster, who never really explained himself why Beastie Boys wouldn't be considered classic. I went back and edited my post to correct things, but just for the sake of other forum members who are reading this thread, I mixed up ebozzz and olaff421 and wrongly misinterpreted what he was saying in one of his original posts.
And "Rock the Bells" is an awesome song. LL really was unstoppable in his hey day. Nowadays when I hear that "can I hit it somemore" club song it makes me sad, but I guess artists have to reinvent themselves to maintain position in popular music. Madonna is a good example of that. |  No worries. You never offended me. I was mainly concerned as I thought there was some misinterpretation of what I had posted. I totally agree with you about the Beastie Boys and their role in the growth/development of Hip-Hop.
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12-21-2007, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by southshoreconor hence the big smile. | OH don't U Just LOVE the dance moves in the vid for Ice Ice...
Aww crap he's a try hard 
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12-21-2007, 04:46 PM
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I totally forgot LL's "I'm bad" yeah that's a good un
I was thinking the OP is asking about famous sampled basslines, of which MC Hammer is the obvious example.
I actually got a kick out of the chutzpah the beastie boys displayed in their early sampling choices...Zepplin, Beatles, the Meters...nothing was sacred to them.
What was that Zep sample in "She's crafty"?
I'm surprised no one has bit Floyd's "Money" yet...I guess 7/8 is hard to rap over  | 
12-21-2007, 09:42 PM
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12-21-2007, 10:00 PM
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Otherwise, I'd say anytime Steely Dan gets sampled in hip hop.
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12-21-2007, 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by rodl2005 OH don't U Just LOVE the dance moves in the vid for Ice Ice...
Aww crap he's a try hard  | http://youtube.com/watch?v=HE4Irj-Ac1o
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12-21-2007, 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by jimmyjames77 He got paid around $200, and that was it... 
Poor Flea. I hope he landed on his feet after that...  | He's doing alright for himself...
And still playing that bassline: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRsDnm4maxg | 
12-21-2007, 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Infernal Affair What do you mean by "classic?" Beastie Boys are as old as Dre... | The Beastie Boys even worked side-by-side with Run DMC back in the day. They're classic for sure.
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