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Old 11-05-2005, 02:20 PM
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i'm guessing it would be chromatic fantasy but has anyone heard any faster?
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Cromatic Fantasy is probably the most complex for the speed. It is damn fast, but I think the stuff his left hand is doing is way more impressive then the speed.
Anyway, the fastest solos that come to mind are....
Word of Mouth (the song)
Port of Entry (Weather Reports "Night Passage" album)
(used to be a)ChaCha (very fast at times, insane throughout)
Some versions of Teen Town
Some versions of Donna Lee (look for live versions of these last 2, live in NY series for example)
There's a bunch more, but I've been awake for like 30 hours and can't think clearly right now.
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Used to be a cha-cha comes to mind..
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Ive not heard alot, but what about the "bass solo" he did with weather reoport (thats the only name i know that file by)
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Ive not heard alot, but what about the "bass solo" he did with weather reoport (thats the only name i know that file by)
Boy. That could be anything....
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well on record it might arguably be with paul bley and pat metheny in 1974
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Question: Why not "Best Jaco solo?" Why does fast matter? He's not the fastest bassist in the world, and he didn't work on making that his trademark.
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Old 11-07-2005, 04:35 AM
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Question: Why not "Best Jaco solo?" Why does fast matter? He's not the fastest bassist in the world, and he didn't work on making that his trademark.
I agree entirely - you could always pick any solo and play it at twice the tempo specified or 4 times as fast...
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Boy. That could be anything....
Remembered the name of it, "Slang" ring a bell with anyone ?
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Remembered the name of it, "Slang" ring a bell with anyone ?
There are many versions of Slang - it's just the name that was given to Jaco's solo slot in the Weather Report set - it varies depending how Jaco felt on the night - but usually it had some melodic playing, some use of harmonics and a bit where Jaco used a delay to set up a loop, then his Hendrix tribute with overdrive - but it was all improvised freely and never exactly the same!
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There are many versions of Slang - it's just the name that was given to Jaco's solo slot in the Weather Report set - it varies depending how Jaco felt on the night - but usually it had some melodic playing, some use of harmonics and a bit where Jaco used a delay to set up a loop, then his Hendrix tribute with overdrive - but it was all improvised freely and never exactly the same!
Yeah, i knew it was a mainly live thing, but if you search for it, there only seems to be one recording off it commonly on the net (you know, some of us werent lucky enough to see him live )
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Yeah if Jaco had one trademark then it was surely his use of harmonics (open and false). i've always had the feeling his use of a fretless gave a theoretically infinite amount of harmonics he could use. He knew them all like the back of his hand. its just amazing watching him incorporate them into his solos at will.

Otherwise, i would suggest Donna Lee (like other TB'ers have) or Come on Come over. its short bursts of fast passages, try doing it over and over again and see how you go.
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Jaco didn't play his fastest very often on his
official records. When he did it, it was often short bursts.

Listen to the end of the solo
on the title-track from the album "Invitation".
That is very fast!
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Old 11-08-2005, 05:29 PM
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Jaco didn't play his fastest very often on his official records. When he did it, it was often short bursts.
That's because playing fast has nothing to do with playing music or being musical.
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That's because playing fast has nothing to do with playing music or being musical.
Does you mean any piece of music with a fast tempo is a bad piece of music? Surely not. I think I've misunderstood your post - sorry!

I agree that playing fast just to be flash is not always musical if it doesn't suit the music you're playing. But that doesn't mean that avoiding playing fast in every circumstance is going to make you a better musician.
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That's because playing fast has nothing to do with playing music or being musical.
exactly. being able to play fast is a part of being musical. so is being able to play slow, soft loud, slap, pick, pluck, tap etc etc

just like the colours within an artist's palette that he/she uses to paint.
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That's because playing fast has nothing to do with playing music or being musical.
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exactly. being able to play fast is a part of being musical.
Er... right. I think I understand now.
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Er... right. I think I understand now.
i meant that musical ability is more than just being able to play fast
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