Is Funk A Dying Genre? - Page 11

Mitchell Royce · #**201** 02-20-2007, 03:20 PM

I'm not sure how I am supposed to understand that question?

I came to this thread with an opinion that was based on me not having heard any intersting funk that was made in the past 20 or so years. I also stated that I am more than open to hear something that makes my opinion obsolete. I am looking for funk that is new and current and the fact that I have not heard any relates directly to the original intention of this thread. Jauqo, you and several others that have posted here are members who I respect and who have a much deeper knowledge of the funk than I have. I was hoping to be pointed towards, well, something. My original post seems to have irked DWBass, though, and things went downhill from there. I have nothing to teach, I want to learn. Specifically of new-school funk. That's all.

00Funk · #**202** 02-20-2007, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by T-MOST

Funk has been dying since 1985! Lets face it no one is going to get a major record contract playng "real" funk.

Thats why I just play for a hobby. In my living room with a drum machine. Im not playing anything else. Im not turning my funk pedal off. Its staying On

Funk bass is the only genre fun to play. OUI GUI funk.
Now I do like, listening to other genres. Drastically different. When I sling the bass on though, Im only playing funk. Not r+b. Not soul. Not dance/pop. Funk
I dont listen to many funk albums, I just make up my own funk. Get all hot, sweaty, and funky. Its fun.
Just did 3 hrs of making up funky bass lines. Had a blast

JAUQO III-X · #**203** 02-20-2007, 03:32 PM

Well to be honest(and I'm not being sarcastic)there really is no new funk,basically what is being called funk today isn't funk at all but a drowned(beyond watered down)hybrid of other watered down genres that aren't being played well either.The biggest perpetrators of what is being called funk today is simply people not knowing,just listen to the grooveless rhythm sections(and sometimes very highly horribly noticeable).The groove was once what mattered first and the look was second in most instances but today it's more about the look and maybe they'll get to the music.

00Funk · #**204** 02-20-2007, 03:57 PM

I miss the metal hair band thing to. With all their cool costumes.
One thing about life, is its allways changing. You just have to adjust to the changes.
If you dont, you'll be miserable.
You cant get stuck in the good ole days of yester year. Things are constantly changing

00Funk · #**205** 02-20-2007, 04:03 PM

Maybe I need to turn my funk pedal off, and adjust to whats popular.
Playing by yourself is boring

JAUQO III-X · #**206** 02-20-2007, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 00Funk

Maybe I need to turn my funk pedal off, and adjust to whats popular.
Playing by yourself is boring

00Funk · #**207** 02-20-2007, 04:06 PM

I have a small fortune invested in funk pedals though. shoot

Bobbo 77" · #**208** 02-20-2007, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAUQO III-X

Well to be honest(and I'm not being sarcastic)there really is no new funk,basically what is being called funk today isn't funk at all but a drowned(beyond watered down)hybrid of other watered down genres that aren't being played well either.The biggest perpetrators of what is being called funk today is simply people not knowing,just listen to the grooveless rhythm sections(and sometimes very highly horribly noticeable).The groove was once what mattered first and the look was second in most instances but today it's more about the look and maybe they'll get to the music.

OK, now, that's what it is! If you don't investigate and do a little history homework, ( yes, in this world of VH1 quick cuts and I want it yesterday mentality) the only way to make it "Sound Today", but with the groooooove, atitude, a BAND breathing, sweatin', letting the music breath, listening, sweatin' and being ON THE ONE, it's just elevator, jack-booted, thumbing with a fake skanking guitar and a drummer to bored to lay it down for 5-10 minutes (we know you got chops, play for the song), and ONLY THEN, will it be relevent TODAY! Marcus Miller made many trips to Staton Island from Queens (2-3 hour transit one way) to meet with an "Older Cat" named Kenny Washington, to learn the HISTORY of Jazz! To learn the language of this art form to take it to another level. THAT'S how you make something relevant today!
Bobbo 77'
47 yrs. young, and proud to be called "Ol' School"

00Funk · #**209** 02-20-2007, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAUQO III-X

Well to be honest(and I'm not being sarcastic)there really is no new funk,basically what is being called funk today isn't funk at all but a drowned(beyond watered down)hybrid of other watered down genres that aren't being played well either.The biggest perpetrators of what is being called funk today is simply people not knowing,just listen to the grooveless rhythm sections(and sometimes very highly horribly noticeable).The groove was once what mattered first and the look was second in most instances but today it's more about the look and maybe they'll get to the music.

You dont like Freekbass ? I like his funkiness. He has a really good rythym, and knows how to dial those effects in just right. Bootsy tought him good

JAUQO III-X · #**210** 02-20-2007, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 00Funk

You dont like Freekbass ? I like his funkiness. He has a really good rythym, and knows how to dial those effects in just right. Bootsy tought him good

I didn't say that.

DWBass · #**211** 02-20-2007, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobbo 77"

47 yrs. young, and proud to be called "Ol' School"

Word! 48 yrs. young and proud to be called "Ol' School"

And Marcus Miller is leading the Funk Brigade! Check out a cat from Germany named Peter Muller! Check out L'Dia, Meshe'lle, Rhonda Smith, MC Divnity, Shelly, David Dyson, Terrance Palmer, Andrew Gouche, Pyrohr and many more keepers of the funk!

Bobbo 77" · #**212** 02-20-2007, 07:23 PM

Yeah DW, that cat Peter Muller is very cool. Lot's of folk's dig that Marcus vibe he has, but they dog him for the same thing???? But he's a little more than that. Nice C.D., M-Vibez.
Oh yeah, We are young and funky at heart!
Bobbo 77'

DWBass · #**213** 02-20-2007, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobbo 77"

Yeah DW, that cat Peter Muller is very cool. Lot's of folk's dig that Marcus vibe he has, but they dog him for the same thing???? But he's a little more than that. Nice C.D., M-Vibez.
Oh yeah, We are young and funky at heart!
Bobbo 77'

Hell, even I dogged him for it but man, is that cd funky! Dude has it!

lbanks · #**214** 02-20-2007, 09:11 PM

Ya' know, funk can't quantitized, analysed or philosophized. It can only be. It will recognize you before you recognize yourself. It can be discussed but its not hangin' around. There's too much rump to be shaken for the task to be forsaken.

ebozzz · #**215** 02-20-2007, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mitchell Royce

I came to this thread with an opinion that was based on me not having heard any intersting funk that was made in the past 20 or so years. I also stated that I am more than open to hear something that makes my opinion obsolete. I am looking for funk that is new and current and the fact that I have not heard any relates directly to the original intention of this thread. Jauqo, you and several others that have posted here are members who I respect and who have a much deeper knowledge of the funk than I have. I was hoping to be pointed towards, well, something. My original post seems to have irked DWBass, though, and things went downhill from there. I have nothing to teach, I want to learn. Specifically of new-school funk. That's all.

Me'Shell Ndegeocello? Cookie was definitely new funk!

DWBass · #**216** 02-21-2007, 05:59 AM

http://www.maceo.com/
http://www.newfunktimes.com/
http://www.funkfilharmonik.com/
http://www.papagrowsfunk.com/
http://www.theclients.ch/
http://www.primetimefunk.com/
http://www.buckylove.com/
http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/petermuller/from/fusionhead
http://www.mullennium.com/
http://www.marcusmiller.com/

http://www.funk101.org/news.asp

http://www.mothershipentertainment.c...s/all_that.php
http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/funknstein

The above is just a sampling of what's going on in Funkdom! In addition, my research is showing many local booking agencies are looking for Funk bands to round out their rosters! Funk may no longer be mainstream but it is alive and well!

Bobbo 77" · #**217** 02-21-2007, 06:55 AM

Funkfather,
You rise mighty early to get the word of da Funk out! Man, I wish I was in your area, seems like it's alive and well there! How's your band's recording's doing? The 3 song's on your space-page sho' sounded fine!

Bobbo 77"
I wanna be Funky when I grow up!

DWBass · #**218** 02-21-2007, 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobbo 77"

Funkfather,
You rise mighty early to get the word of da Funk out! Man, I wish I was in your area, seems like it's alive and well there! How's your band's recording's doing? The 3 song's on your space-page sho' sounded fine!

Bobbo 77"
I wanna be Funky when I grow up!

http://www.esnips.com/doc/e01c3355-6...-Demo-@128kbps

Bassman7PM · #**219** 02-21-2007, 08:27 AM

It seems we've overlooked a particular style of music which is in its nature inherently utilizes the funk and thats Gospel. To a large degree unspoiled by technology and still uses old school funk and a tight pocket as its base. Example, Fred Hammonds new CD "Free to Worship" is totally off the hook. Not trying to proselytize, just expand the discussion. Funk is long from being dead.

Also Check out:

Israel Houghton and New Breed
Lamar Campbell "When I think about You"
Tye Tribett and G.A.
Kirk Franklin "Hero"
Hezekiah Walker "20/85 the Experience"
J. Moss

On another note, Rhonda Smith (Ex Prince Bassist, CD "RS2") is pretty funky.

dougjwray · #**220** 02-21-2007, 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobbo 77"

OK, now, that's what it is! If you don't investigate and do a little history homework, ( yes, in this world of VH1 quick cuts and I want it yesterday mentality) the only way to make it "Sound Today", but with the groooooove, atitude, a BAND breathing, sweatin', letting the music breath, listening, sweatin' and being ON THE ONE, it's just elevator, jack-booted, thumbing with a fake skanking guitar and a drummer to bored to lay it down for 5-10 minutes (we know you got chops, play for the song), and ONLY THEN, will it be relevent TODAY! Marcus Miller made many trips to Staton Island from Queens (2-3 hour transit one way) to meet with an "Older Cat" named Kenny Washington, to learn the HISTORY of Jazz! To learn the language of this art form to take it to another level. THAT'S how you make something relevant today!
Bobbo 77'
47 yrs. young, and proud to be called "Ol' School"

2-3 hours one way from Queens to Staten Island? What-- was he riding a snail?