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04-29-2002, 02:26 AM
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Sorry bout the stupid subject, i couldnt think of anything else that sounded good.
In our american history class, we have to get a song with lyrics that have a meaning about war/governments. I know that sounds stupid but today we listened to a song that was played during the veitnam war, and how it expressed how the people felt and how much they wanted the war to stop. And i need to get a song like that. I had in mind "beds are burning" by midnight oil, "f*** Authority" by Pennywise, or something by Operation Ivy. Any suggestions?
Sorry for the lack of info.
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04-29-2002, 10:53 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2000 Location: Canada! | | | Here are some songs. I think they're all about America (since this is an American history class you say)...
-Wrongful Suspicion - Rancid
-Bullet the Blue Sky - U2
-WMA - Pearl Jam
-Rocking in the Free World - Neil Young
-Fight the Power - Public Enemy
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04-29-2002, 10:54 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Hafnarfjordur, Iceland | | | Try most Bruce Springsteen songs. Alot of them are about the Vietnam war and alot of them are about the goverment. | 
04-29-2002, 11:25 AM
| | Supporting Member | | Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Still in Margaritaville | | | Your question brings back memories. During the VietNam War, we called anti-war music "protest music." There is a bunch of such music on the dual CD soundtrack to the movie "Good Morning VietNam."
That said, war and government commentary music goes back even to the Revolutionary War and Civil War. I'm not sure what your teacher is after...actual protest music or any music dealing with war.
For example, the great World War II (or WWI?)song, "When Johnny Comes Marching Home Again" Another is the great Irish song "Oh, Danny Boy." "Yankee Doodle went to Town" was a Revolutionary War song. Our national anthem "The Star Spangled Banner" was about a Revolutionary War battle. The song, "Look Away DixieLand" was a great Civil war song. In fact, way back in the day when I attended the University of Florida, the song was played at football games and many people rose and stood at attention as if it was a special anthem. (I'm not saying that was right. I'm just saying that is what they did.)
Also, does your teacher want anti-govenrment without war as a possibility. I know of one in Venezuela that criticized the long stream of ineffective presidents, "Presidentes Vienen." There must be many like that in English about the U.S.
I'm surprised no one has mentioned Rage Against the Machine in connection to anti-war and governemnt protest songs. I can't recall the name of the song, but one was against the unfair treament of an imprisoned native American.
Check out Bob Dylan's catalog of music, too. And Peter, Paul and Mary. The song "The Answer My Friend Is Blowing in the Wind" could be interpreted to be a plea for peace. Also, "If I Had a Hammer." (I'd hammer for love and peace all over this land.)
Also check country and Western music. They have a long tradition of creating very patriotic music, especially when the U.S. is at war. Lee Greenwood's "I'm Proud to Be an American" stands out in my mind among many, many others going back to the fifties, such as the "Green Baret" song.
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04-29-2002, 11:39 AM
| | RIP Rock N Roll | | Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: I am a phantasm, a figment of your adolescent imagination! | | Quote: Originally posted by Boplicity Our national anthem "The Star Spangled Banner" was about a Revolutionary War battle. | The Star Spangled Banner was written about the War of 1812.
The Ramones have a couple of songs about vietnam vets. Though they're kinda too funny and goofy to really be a protest band.
What about the DEAD KENNEDYS????? HELLLO! Jello Biafra is the epitome of the protesting punk. Also, Rancid's "Rawanda", Bad Religion's "generator" has lots of songs about the Gulf War. | 
04-29-2002, 11:43 AM
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04-29-2002, 12:29 PM
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that's a real alternative to regular government-related music. | 
04-29-2002, 02:19 PM
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The Star Spangled Banner was written about the War of 1812. |  Have I got to back to school or what? 
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04-29-2002, 04:56 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY, USA | | Try anything by Anti-Flag (Red, White, and Brainwashed; Die For Your Government, etc.). They have a really current one protesting the "war on terrorism" called 911 For Peace. They have lyrics and a free mp3 on www.anti-flag.com.
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04-30-2002, 02:02 AM
| | formerly James Hetfield | | Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Melbourne, Australia. | | Quote: Originally posted by CrazyFool Try anything by Anti-Flag (Red, White, and Brainwashed; Die For Your Government, etc.). They have a really current one protesting the "war on terrorism" called 911 For Peace. They have lyrics and a free mp3 on www.anti-flag.com. | Thats the song im doing now, 911 for peace. But, I CANT FIND LYRICS  Little help guys? thanks in advance
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04-30-2002, 02:54 AM
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Thats the song im doing now, 911 for peace. But, I CANT FIND LYRICS Little help guys? thanks in advance | http://www.anti-flag.com/anti-flag/911forpeace.html
there you go
"War?" by System of a Down gets my vote though... there are tons of great Bad Religion and Rage Against the Machine songs too... or Dead Kennedys - "Kinky Sex Makes the World Go Round"... its not really a song though... its spoken word over background music
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04-30-2002, 02:59 AM
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anyone ever heard 'eve of destruction' by barry mcguire.
its about how war is everywhere and how you arent old enough to vote yet your old enough to go to war and kill. its probably the only song i know that fits what you want, and midnight oil recently did a cover of this. midnight oil are australian so you mightnt wanna mention that in your american history class.
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04-30-2002, 04:50 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: In a never ending spiral of despair | | Quote: Originally posted by Boplicity Have I got to back to school or what? | Nah, just read this Bop. Star Spangled Banner and the War of 1812.
I'd check out the Good Morning VietNam soundtrack along with the Forrest Gump ST. Both have some excellent music written during the VietNam Era.
Also, "The End" by the Doors, has always kinda struck me in that sense. It that just becasue I've watched Apocalypse Now one too many times? | 
04-30-2002, 04:55 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: The Dark Side Of the Moon | | | 'Five To One' by the Doors. The perfect anti-government song!! They got the guns, but we've got the numbers! | 
04-30-2002, 05:36 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Aylesbury, England | | | suggestion Don't know if these have been suggested,
Metallica - One
Guns 'n' Roses - Civil War
U2 - Sunday Bloody Sunday
Arlo Guthrie - Alices Restaurant
Just for starters - I'm sure I'll come back with more
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Oh yeah the Levellers - Battle of the Beanfield
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04-30-2002, 05:41 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Hafnarfjordur, Iceland | | Quote: Originally posted by Boplicity I'm surprised no one has mentioned Rage Against the Machine in connection to anti-war and governemnt protest songs. I can't recall the name of the song, but one was against the unfair treament of an imprisoned native American. | Vietnow? | 
04-30-2002, 07:51 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: West Lafayette, Indiana | | | "Shadow of a Man" by Oysterhead, about a Vietnam vet.
"The Army's on Ecstacy" also by Oysterhead.
"I Feel Like I'm Fixin' to Die Rag," by Country Joe and the Fish
Probably a bunch more that I can't remember right now. | 
04-30-2002, 08:14 PM
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....or Dead Kennedys - "Kinky Sex Makes the World Go Round"... its not really a song though... its spoken word over background music.... |
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one - metallica
die for your government - anti-flag
kill the poor - dead kennedys
war pigs - black sabbath
chemical warfare - dead kennedys
war ensemble - slayer
mandatory suicide - slayer
religious wars - subhumans
dittohead - slayer
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