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Old 10-29-2010, 10:19 AM
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Don't know if this has been posted here before, but I just stumbled upon it and thought I'd share. Very sloppy, but vicious as hell. I love it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjS7x...watch_response
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Old 10-29-2010, 10:42 AM
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Yeah, I posted it about a month ago.

Lennon was no bass player.
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Poor Ringo....
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Old 10-29-2010, 11:05 AM
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Sounds great imo. Cool sound!
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Old 10-29-2010, 11:06 AM
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It's horrible playing, but with respect to the song - it's probably perfect.
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Old 10-29-2010, 11:06 AM
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Listen to this!
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Old 10-29-2010, 11:09 AM
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Wow. I don't think I'll ever be as hard on myself about my playing or tone the same way again. That sounds absolutely awful, but it works.
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Old 10-29-2010, 09:09 PM
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Yeah, I posted it about a month ago.

Lennon was no bass player.


I disagree.
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Old 10-29-2010, 09:13 PM
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Played like a guitar player....
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Old 10-30-2010, 10:47 AM
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It's horrible playing, but with respect to the song - it's probably perfect.
Exactly - in context of the song it's enormously effective. Brutal tone.
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Old 10-30-2010, 10:58 AM
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Horrible timing/accuracy. Plays like a guitarist alright. No real soul or smoothness. Rough transitions. Half a beat behind or ahead of the song. Lennon was no bassist. Awesome tone, though, and good for a song meant for nothing but to beat the hard-rock-ness of the Who.
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Half a beat behind or ahead of the song. Lennon was no bassist.
Well, John's sloppy bass playing adds urgency and unstability to the song, which I absolutely love.
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It's interesting, so much of the tone is colored by the players attack (whether with pick or fingers it slapping).

I am no Beatles historian, but it would be a fair assumption that John is playing Paul's rig. The tone he gets is nothing like Paul's (obviously) b/c he is playing so hard, almost w/disregard to what the bass would sound like in Paul's hands. He may be no bassist, but IMO, he is showing his skills as a songwriter. He obviously knew what the song needed.
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Old 10-30-2010, 01:44 PM
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is this the ric?
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Old 10-30-2010, 01:51 PM
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Woah!

That should dispel any misguided assertion that Lennon was playing George's Jazz bass.

Sure seems like he's brutalizing his Fender VI (as mentioned above).

Maybe Yoko cut this track.

I think (read somewhere) that during this session Lennon was running about the studio with an ashtray tied to his head

All stated is speculation, as I was NOT present during any Beatles' recording session.
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Ah I see that now about the Fender VI. But still I think he was approaching the bass part as to how it would service the song as a whole.
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I think, as a piece of music history, this is very cool and interesting!

BTW, most bass tracks, when isolated, sound pretty un-inspiring.

No one ever complained about the bass on HELTER SKELTER until this.

I think it is cooL!
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Old 10-30-2010, 02:27 PM
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WOW!!!! A modern producer would have crapped his pants and destroyed this in Protools...!!!
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