Hey Barkless Dog. ? About "The Low C# Theory"

[JAUQO III-X]

What was it about the Low C# Theory that eventually grew on you?








Thanks.

[Barkless Dog]

It was a strange experience as when I first listened to it came off very abstract, hard to follow, my brain was trying to proccess what was going on & could not make sense of it, much like trying to listen to Captain Beefheart for the first time.

I was working with my stereo cranked, my mind pretty much blank & the music just kind of seeped into me, connected with me. Really hard to describe the experience, but I guess thats what grew on me was the "open" experience, turning off the part of your mind that has to make sense of everything.

Now I can listen to it & just kind of let go & enjoy it. Most really good music to me is music that can be challenging, but very rewarding after many listens. It helps you grow musically. Feeling the low C# bass parts was kind of eye opening.

[JAUQO III-X]

Thank you I sincerely appreciate you taking the time to explain your reason.





People are interesting. I got a pm (I wont say who it's from) but below is the title of the pm and it's contents.


re: asking someone why they liked your music so much


well.. at least you'll never need your prostate checked. you seem to have a clear view of your own insides right where your head is currently.




To answer the pm.

I have the right to ask any question I choose about my own cd if I want. Especially when some one paid their hard earned money for it. I have the right to make notes as a artist any way I choose. I want those who may be interested in what I put out for the public's choosing to be able to express how they may feel about my work, whether it's positive or negative. I am proud and to a degree I have succeeded in achieving if not all of my goals as a recording artists at least some of them. And some of that is knowing that some where in this big world there's a satisfied connoisseur of my artistic expression. For many that is not always a goal achieved. To the tb member who pm'ed me, when you decide to record and put your own musical expression out there for all to have an opinion of, then maybe you'll understand my very very simple question to Barkless Dog.

A true artists expresses for self first and from there appreciate those that get it and those who choose to not get it.

For me the ones who don't get it are equally appreciated.

[BobaFret]

Seems like a nasty PM for just asking an opinion. If I made any music people would enjoy listening to I'd think I could ask them what they liked about it.

[pablomigraine]

Originally Posted by Barkless Dog

It was a strange experience as when I first listened to it came off very abstract, hard to follow, my brain was trying to proccess what was going on & could not make sense of it, much like trying to listen to Captain Beefheart for the first time.

I was working with my stereo cranked, my mind pretty much blank & the music just kind of seeped into me, connected with me. Really hard to describe the experience, but I guess thats what grew on me was the "open" experience, turning off the part of your mind that has to make sense of everything.

Now I can listen to it & just kind of let go & enjoy it. Most really good music to me is music that can be challenging, but very rewarding after many listens. It helps you grow musically. Feeling the low C# bass parts was kind of eye opening.

Funny, this very much mimics my own experience. I recently took a trip in a friend's Audi A8, which had the Bang & Olafsen stereo system.... and I jammed this disc from Albany to Rochester.... bythe time I hit Utica I felt really "connected" to it in a way I didnt on my first listen....

[JAUQO III-X]

Originally Posted by BobaFret

Seems like a nasty PM for just asking an opinion. If I made any music people would enjoy listening to I'd think I could ask them what they liked about it.

Thank you. And all I was asking Barkless Dog a very simple question. And I appreciated him taking the time to answer it.

[SBassman]

Sub

[DeathFromBelow]

Originally Posted by SBassman

Sub

Woofer?

[projectMalamute]

Originally Posted by JAUQO III-X

To answer the pm.

I have the right to ask any question I choose about my own cd if I want. Especially when some one paid their hard earned money for it. I have the right to make notes as a artist any way I choose. I want those who may be interested in what I put out for the public's choosing to be able to express how they may feel about my work, whether it's positive or negative.

You could have done all that privately.

Instead you started a thread to prompt someone who had already commented on how they liked the record to publicly expound on what they liked about it.

[Josh Pelican]

Does it really bother you that much?

[JAUQO III-X]

Originally Posted by Josh Pelican

Does it really bother you that much?

Are you asking me?

[superbassman2000]

Originally Posted by JAUQO III-X

Are you asking me?

I think it was aimed at projectmalamute

[JAUQO III-X]

Originally Posted by superbassman2000

I think it was aimed at projectmalamute

I don't know that's why I asked.

[Josh Pelican]

Sorry, Jauqo. That was aimed at the Malamute.

I have enjoyed your music for a while. You're an incredibly talented musician, obviously well-educated, and I would consider you innovative to the ERB community. I don't understand why people give you so much flak about it. I have a bass setup for Eb0 (with a rather bizarre tuning) and no one says anything, aside from "no cabinet will reproduce it".

From talking to you, Skip, Gary Goodman, and even Mr. Villex (Will?), I have learned so much about low tunings and I couldn't be more thankful. I love seeing/hearing/feeling how low the bass will go.

[JAUQO III-X]

Thanks Josh. People really are negative and they really don't have to be.

[Barkless Dog]

I did not mind the question or in answering it.

Looking back at the listening experience I can also state that maybe the reason that I finally understood or could listen to it, could be because I had my computer stereo really cranked, thus giving the Low C the amps to be heard from my sub woofer. Listening to it at low volume levels make the Low C# sound kind of mushey on my computer.

Therefore I can definately say some music must be heard at certain volume levels to to "heard" properly. If a reviwer of this CD listens to it at a low volume level only once, it's easy to dismiss it as a unlistenable kind of free form scribble.

I know the same holds true for Gibson basses with Mudbuckers. If you try one with your rig set to Fender settings, they sound like crap. You need to adjust your settings differently to get the best tone, which no other bass can sound like.

So maybe the only reason it grew on me was because I found the right sound level to actually hear it correctly. I love to listen to music that challeges your perception of music.

The only music I cant stomach is singers (violins etc) or anything out of key.

[Barkless Dog]

Originally Posted by JAUQO III-X

Thanks Josh. People really are negative and they really don't have to be.

I find that the bass playing community in general is a pretty close minded community to what the bass player should be doing, again in general. A bass player's job to many musicians, is to to be in the back ground, making the guitarist sound good, kind of like a offensive football lineman. The spot light is for the guitarist & singer- know your place Mr bass player!

Kahlers are for guitarists, Gibson basses are all muddy, bass solos are boring. A bass should only have 4-5 strings. 5 strings are OK because it extends the low end, thus not competing with the guitar range.

Many people are conditioned not to question, not to try to understand other points of view.

If one starts to question things, where does that lead?

People in power do not want you to question anything.

Just my opinion.

[Jazz Ad]

I enjoy the album and often listen to it, I love the lines but I kept thinking the bass would sound better an octave higher.
Don't let people's opinion get in your way though. If you're sincere at what you do, it's worth doing it.

[JAUQO III-X]

Thank you Barkless Dog. And it really is refreshing when one can ask a innocently legitimate question and it can be discussed in a mature and respectful manner.

Originally Posted by Jazz Ad

I enjoy the album and often listen to it, I love the lines but I kept thinking the bass would sound better an octave higher.
Don't let people's opinion get in your way though. If you're sincere at what you do, it's worth doing it.

Thank you. And believe me I don't let the opinions of others get in my way when it come to me doing my music.

[davec]

I've told Jauqo this before, but what I've always enjoyed about the project is that you can listen to it activly or as something in the background and either way it grooves