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Old 11-15-2008, 04:39 PM
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I am sitting here listening to "Hey Jude" from The Beatle's "LOVE" Album, and it says that it was composed by Lennon...

I could have sworn that Hey Jude was written by Paul McCartney for John Lennon's son Julian when John was divorcing Cynthia...

What gives?
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It was indeed written by McCartney for Julian when John was divorcing Cynthia, and John thought it was written for him

Does it say Lennon wrote it on the album cover or something?
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Old 11-15-2008, 05:02 PM
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I am sitting here listening to "Hey Jude" from The Beatle's "LOVE" Album, and it says that it was composed by Lennon...

I could have sworn that Hey Jude was written by Paul McCartney for John Lennon's son Julian when John was divorcing Cynthia...

What gives?
Yeah, it was.

I learned that last year when we were arranging that song for a 6 piece vocal ensemble. Awesome song.
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Old 11-15-2008, 05:03 PM
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It was indeed written by McCartney for Julian when John was divorcing Cynthia, and John thought it was written for him

Does it say Lennon wrote it on the album cover or something?
In WindowsMedia player, there is a section at the bottom that flashes song information...

I just happened to be looking there when it said "Lennon[Composer]"
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Old 11-15-2008, 05:05 PM
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From Wiki (I know, not the most reliable source, but... )

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"Hey Jude" is a song by the English rock band The Beatles that was recorded in 1968. Originally titled "Hey Jules", the ballad was written by Paul McCartney—and credited to Lennon/McCartney—to comfort John Lennon's son Julian during his parents' divorce. "Hey Jude" begins with a verse-bridge structure based around McCartney's vocal performance and piano accompaniment; further details are added as the song progresses to distinguish sections. After the fourth verse, the song shifts to a fade-out coda that lasts for more than four minutes.
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Yes. McCartney wrote it and he attempted to get Yoko Ono to allow the credit to go to him as it probably should. She refused. She is the ultimate whack job.
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Old 11-16-2008, 06:40 AM
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a few things.

1. all of mccartney's tunes with the beatles were credited to "lennon/mccartney", as were all lennon's, to the best of my knowledge. this practice predated yoko ono's involvement in john lennon's life.

2. the song info stored on the database that windows media player connects to is user-entered, and can be user-changed. someone just entered the info incorrectly.

3. OT is for non-music related discussion. anything related to music recordings belongs in recordings. i'll move this over there.
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Yoko rereleased "Give Peace a Chance" with just Lennon's name on it.
It seems only right that McCartney could get one of his songs with just
his name on it.

As I said before, Yoko Ono is a first class whack job.
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This reminds me of a bumper sticker I saw yesterday that made me laugh:

"Still pissed at Yoko"

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a few things.

1. all of mccartney's tunes with the beatles were credited to "lennon/mccartney", as were all lennon's, to the best of my knowledge. this practice predated yoko ono's involvement in john lennon's life.
Yes, I believe they agreed to do this for publishing splits because they were, first and foremost, a song-writing team. As The Beatles continued to make albums, each of them started to write alone more, but would still consult and contribute to each other's songs. For this reason, the "Lennon/McCartney" credit is seen on these tunes to keep things easy.
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From what I understand, Lennon's main contribution to the song was his insistence that McCartney leave in the phrase, "The movement you need is on your shoulder." McCartney wasn't sure about it and ran it by Lennon, who encouraged him to keep it in there.
McCartney's biography, "Many Years From Now", is an interesting read for anyone who'd like to learn more about who wrote what. He really goes into detail. Also, there was a Playboy interview with Lennon, published a month or two after his death, in which he did the same thing.
Their songwriting partnership was quite complicated and hard to sort out.
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McCartney's biography, "Many Years From Now", is an interesting read for anyone who'd like to learn more about who wrote what.
Written with Barry Miles, right?
Anyway, I agree...good bio on McCartney.
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Yoko rereleased "Give Peace a Chance" with just Lennon's name on it.
It seems only right that McCartney could get one of his songs with just
his name on it.

As I said before, Yoko Ono is a first class whack job.
But that was truly just a Lennon (and Yoko) effort. McCartney had no contribution to it at all. It was also a year after Hey Jude and when the Beatles were starting to unravel.
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Written with Barry Miles, right?
Anyway, I agree...good bio on McCartney.
Correct-- it's McCartney's biography, written by Barry Miles (not McCartney's autobiography, to be technical about it).
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