I'm happy that Jimmy Page found Led Zeppelin

[Joe Nerve]

I'm sure not everyone will agree, but I think he needed them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58mQv...eature=related

[Klopp18]

i definitely agree! i believe read in a old bass player that jimmy page, john entwistle, and keith moon were going to start led zeppelin. i guess john and keith were going to leave the who to start led zepplin. interesting i thought

[OmnitzGarima]

Originally Posted by Joe Nerve

I'm sure not everyone will agree, but I think he needed them.

I'm not sure that I have an opinion one way or the other, but I would like to point out one thing.

The band was formed over 40 years ago.

Get on with your life.

[notverygood]

I just read in Don Felder's book Heaven and Hell Life in the Eagles that he once was going to do a project with a singer named Terry Reid. This Terry Reid was asked to be the singer for LZ, but he wanted a solo career and recommended Plant who was unknown. Talk about wrong move. Can you imagine driving to work hearing Whole Lotta Love again for the 1,000,000 time knowing that that could have been you. According to Felder, he had "a great soulful voice."

[bassplayer8953]

I actually saw this version of the Yardbirds at a teen club near my home, when I was in high school. After hearing the Yardbirds on vinyl, with Clapton & Beck, the Jimmy Page version sucked. Safe to say, "The New Yardbirds" would never have gone anywhere.

Page is lucky he hooked up with Plant, Jones, & Bonham. And that they found Peter Grant, who had an uncanny feel for the business of Rock n Roll. They enjoyed huge commercial success, although live, they could never hold a candle to Deep Purple or Black Sabbath, who were their main competition, at least in the early 70's.

[walterw]

Originally Posted by Joe Nerve

I'm sure not everyone will agree, but I think he needed them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58mQv...eature=related

wow yeah, those poor guys had no idea what to do with that song, did they? it looked like none of them (including jimmy) were very much enjoying playing it, either.

of course he needed them: the fact that the death of a band's most "easily replaceable" member, the drummer, meant zeppelin was over was proof of that.

[Mark Wilson]

Originally Posted by OmnitzGarima

I'm not sure that I have an opinion one way or the other, but I would like to point out one thing.

The band was formed over 40 years ago.

Get on with your life.

the hell?
A bit over-dramatic response, don't you think?

[Valerus]

Originally Posted by OmnitzGarima

I'm not sure that I have an opinion one way or the other, but I would like to point out one thing.

The band was formed over 40 years ago.

Get on with your life.

I vote this one of the most pointless posts on TalkBass.

[jmattbassplaya]

Originally Posted by Valerus

I vote this one of the most pointless posts on TalkBass.

I second the motion.

[boynamedsuse]

Originally Posted by Joe Nerve

I'm sure not everyone will agree, but I think he needed them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58mQv...eature=related

Now that was painful. I couldn't make it all the way through--and I normally like the Yardbirds.

[pjmuck]

I just spit my coffee at 2:13, LOL.

"I feel like a mouse and you act like a cat.."

Yeah, this was bad.

On a positive note, there's a real nice closeup of Page's early paint job on that Tele at 2:34.

Now this is more like it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T12wR...eature=related

Wasn't 21 year old Robert Plant a mofo force of nature? Seasoned well beyond his years.

[Joe Nerve]

Originally Posted by Mark Wilson

the hell?
A bit over-dramatic response, don't you think?

I just assumed someone hurt his feelings last night and he felt the need to lash out. Thought it was funny.

Was asked to do a zeppelin tribute with a few guys, and it has me getting into zeppelin on a whole new level. Always loved JPJs work, but never learned all that much of it note for note. I think he was a master at playing for the song. Knew exactly where and how to cut back when necessary, and let go when the music allowed. Gallows pole is one of many great examples of this. Wasn't all that big a fan of that song until I learned it.

[Joebone]

This is more like it still...check out JPJ and Bonham shifting the accents under Page's guitar solo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlNhD...eature=related

[Classickbass]

Originally Posted by bassplayer8953

I actually saw this version of the Yardbirds at a teen club near my home, when I was in high school. After hearing the Yardbirds on vinyl, with Clapton & Beck, the Jimmy Page version sucked. Safe to say, "The New Yardbirds" would never have gone anywhere.

Page is lucky he hooked up with Plant, Jones, & Bonham. And that they found Peter Grant, who had an uncanny feel for the business of Rock n Roll. They enjoyed huge commercial success, although live, they could never hold a candle to Deep Purple or Black Sabbath, who were their main competition, at least in the early 70's.

Page always seemed like the weak link in the chain that is Led Zeppelin. But honestly, who can compete with Sab live?

[deaf pea]

The Yardbirds doing Dazed And Confused is WAY less effective than Led Zeppelin doing Dazed And Confused . . . . . .

[KPJ]

The Yardbirds were obviously a completely different band than Zeppelin. Keith Relf was no Robert Plant and I believe the lyrics he is singing are closer to the original blues lyrics (origianl song "I'm So Confused", I believe). Plant was infamous for putting lyrics from different blues songs into the same Zep song; most blatantly with "How Many More Times" (lifted from "How Many More Years") where he starts singing "The Hunter" over the breakdown. The video is an interesting historical piece, as it seems as though all of Page's ideas for "Dazed and Confused" are fully formed. Dreja and McCarty are playing along the lines of how the Yardbirds usually did for a "rave-up". Zeppelin's version was recorded just a few months after this was filmed. I'm sure Jones and Bonham were much more in tune with what Page had in mind than the Yardbirds did.

[Blueszilla]

Originally Posted by Joe Nerve

Wasn't all that big a fan of that song until I learned it.

IME, you can apply this statement to a very wide variety of material.

[bassplayer8953]

Originally Posted by Classickbass

Page always seemed like the weak link in the chain that is Led Zeppelin. But honestly, who can compete with Sab live?

Deep Purple, in their prime, was unbelievable live. If you check out their live stuff from the 70's: Made in Japan, Live/BBC, Made in Europe, you'll see what I mean. Sabbath was hellacious too... ...and of course Sabbath kept that attitude through the ages. The others...not so much. Must be that age thing...

IMO Jimmy Page was always a sloppy-sounding guitarist, expecially live. I realize most guitarists can have an off-night, but with Page, this was the norm, not the exception. And, even bigger than the Page issues, Plant always...always...seemed to be in poor voice, hoarse, really "not with it tonight". I attended LZ concerts 8 - 10 times during the late 60's - 70's, and this was always the case. LZ just didn't have it live. Their live cd's/dvd's should be considered best case scenario. In most cases going to a LZ concert was a disappointment...IMO...
...but of course LZ's recordings were another matter. Always great there. I just wish they had been able to pull it off live.

[JimK]

Originally Posted by boynamedsuse

Now that was painful. I couldn't make it all the way through--and I normally like the Yardbirds.

I dug it...not as "heavy" as Zeppelin but kinda avant & psychedelic.
This is 1968...imagine a Pop group playing like this in 2011.

[esa372]

Originally Posted by Joe Nerve

I'm happy that Jimmy Page found Led Zeppelin

Page didn't find Led Zeppelin; he created Led Zeppelin.