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09-02-2011, 01:16 PM
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You know what I mean - you think you've got the beat nailed down when you hear the record start, and then when the band comes in you realise that the bar lines aren't where you thought they were.
Here's some examples, let's have yours too.
A mild case, not too hard to cure... Sex on fire- Kings of leon (Lyrics) - YouTube
A little more severe... Andrew Gold - Lonely Boy - YouTube
This is the classic one, always caught me out until I figured out how to count through the drum intro... Led Zeppelin/ Rock N' Roll - YouTube
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09-02-2011, 01:21 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2006 Location: Buffalo, NY | | | The Police - Spirits In The Material World - easy to have that bass line turned around in your head (an 1/8th note off) and once you think you have it, it's a real b@#$&* to 'relearn/refeel' it.
Lonely Boy's a good example too. |
09-02-2011, 01:27 PM
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"Good Times Roll" by the Cars is another. |
09-02-2011, 01:32 PM
|  | Is this thing on? | | Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Where else? In the dog house. | | Had trouble with this one. A measure of 3/4 before before all the 4/4. Then it repeats at 1:08 and I think there is a measure of 2/4 before it. It didn't help that the intro wasn't in the score. Glee Cast - River Deep, Mountain High (Glee Cast Version) - YouTube
I figured it out but the group just said *&^% it and did the whole thing 4/4. I doubt anyone noticed. Fun song to play. |
09-02-2011, 01:42 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2006 Location: Palm Coast, FL | | | I don't find that Andrew Gold one hard at all. The bass player just jumps in doubling the keyboard part. The others you list were tricky! |
09-02-2011, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ric stave The Police - Spirits In The Material World - easy to have that bass line turned around in your head (an 1/8th note off) and once you think you have it, it's a real b@#$&* to 'relearn/refeel' it.
Lonely Boy's a good example too. | +1 again!
There are other songs by the Police that are similarly tricky...
" The Bed's Too Big Without You"
How about Chaka Khan and Rufus - " Tell Me Something Good"
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09-02-2011, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by dougjwray | Yep - that's it, spot on.
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09-02-2011, 01:56 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: The Netherlands | | | For some reason I seem to lose it on Sex on Fire as well.. Don't know why, really.
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09-02-2011, 02:00 PM
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09-02-2011, 02:01 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Ottawa, Canada | | First time I heard this, I died a little inside. Danny Carey (Tool's drummer) is god at dropping time, and this one is tricky to figure out when to come in. I'll let the time signature stay unknown for now and you guys can figure it out! Tool - Ticks and Leeches
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09-02-2011, 02:03 PM
|  | I'm gonna love and tolerate the **** out of you! | | Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Memphis/Knoxville TN | | | It's not the one, but that whole intro bit to Rush's 'Spirit of the Radio' is a real pain in the rump. |
09-02-2011, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by jmattbassplaya It's not the one, but that whole intro bit to Rush's 'Spirit of the Radio' is a real pain in the rump. | Amen.
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09-02-2011, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by LowEndMan2112 First time I heard this, I died a little inside. Danny Carey (Tool's drummer) is god at dropping time, and this one is tricky to figure out when to come in. I'll let the time signature stay unknown for now and you guys can figure it out! Tool - Ticks and Leeches | Easy. 7/4 lol. |
09-02-2011, 02:05 PM
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09-02-2011, 02:06 PM
| | I'm gonna love and tolerate the **** out of you! | | Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Memphis/Knoxville TN | | | The Police have always been nuts when it comes to time. Sting will be singing in one time, playing in another, and will be jumping up and down on stage in another. The guy is a monster! |
09-02-2011, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by jmattbassplaya Easy. 7/4 lol. | Rush fans know their stuff! 
This one's short, but the meter isn't too common. Celestial Terrestrial Commuters - Mahavishnu Orchestra
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09-02-2011, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by jmattbassplaya The Police have always been nuts when it comes to time. Sting will be singing in one time, playing in another, and will be jumping up and down on stage in another. The guy is a monster! | +1 to that! Everytime I hear them, I'm in awe. His solo stuff is also extremely rhythmically complex. The Police's drummer -- whose name escapes me -- is a tank as well, his hi hat pyrotechnics are great.
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09-02-2011, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by jmattbassplaya The Police have always been nuts when it comes to time. Sting will be singing in one time, playing in another, and will be jumping up and down on stage in another. The guy is a monster! | Sting is the man, indeed - and so is Mr. Copeland with his 'otherworldly' drum approach. He frequently talks about how he uses "common" drum patterns he grew up listening to that happen to be 'inverted' patterns of common American pop grooves or Reggae grooves. Growing up in Lebanon and Egypt turned him onto all sort of what we (Western ears) hear as inside out.
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