Jazz Metal?

mcbosler · #1 01-24-2003, 10:47 AM

Apologies to the purists in advance (you can slap me later), but over the past 5 years or so I've been listening to everything from Fear Factory to Dave Holland. I have found that my favorite style of music is fairly scarce though - I really love heavy music where the verses have a standard jazz kind of groove, while the chorus/bridge sections are thrashy. A couple of examples: Rage Against The Machine's "Darkness" on the original The Crow soundtrack, and Incubus's "Deep Inside" on their S.C.I.E.N.C.E. album. If you have heard anything else that's kind of like this, tell me what it is. GIMME GIMME GIMME!!!

mcbosler · #2 01-24-2003, 10:57 AM

Good point - need to add this in there: as far as time signatures and polyrythms go (metal math, as you put it), I LOVE it, so long as it's done smoothly...favorite example of that would be Tool I think...though Sleepy Time Gorilla Museum is also appealing to me, and they're pretty eclectic about it.

wulf · #3 01-24-2003, 10:59 AM

I'm a fan of Living Colour. Jazz metal? Your call, but there are some pretty intense harmonic and rhythmic things going on in their songs that bear thinking about, while all the time they groove along.

Wulf

thrash_jazz · #4 01-24-2003, 11:37 AM

Check out some Naked City.

parrott · #5 01-25-2003, 05:23 PM

Listen to Smash, for he speaks The Truth.

*ahem*

I'll second Voivod, Dillinger Escape Plan, and especially Botch.

I still need to check out Gorguts though.

FLOYDtheBARBER · #6 01-25-2003, 07:19 PM

i'm gonna say pantera- because they're metal, but they've got so much groove!

mark beem · #7 01-25-2003, 11:15 PM

I'll have to throw in Spiral Architect!!!

hujo · #8 01-27-2003, 12:54 PM

Check out Peter Thordendahl from Meshuggas solo album.

Jazz Ad · #9 01-27-2003, 01:04 PM

Old style, but Magma would probably make you happy.

rabid_granny · #10 01-27-2003, 02:13 PM

There was a Canadian band called "Glueleg" that released an independent release call "Heroic Doses". They were a hard rock/metal band that incorporated a jazz saxophone. They kicked ass.

Brendan · #11 01-27-2003, 07:43 PM

Botch, Voivod, Cynic, Gorguts, Wicked Innocence...

Yep, SMASH pretty much hit it. In a simmilar vein of Cynic, try Taimat's "Wildhoney" and Opeth (nearly any) and you'll probably still be happy.

And while I'm thinking about Botch, "O Fortuna" still makes the hair raise up on the back of my neck, even dozens of listens.

Bassline1414 · #12 01-27-2003, 09:07 PM

No one said Mr. Bungle! A good example of jazz metal is "Carry Stress in the Jaw", although it's extremely insane. For something less abstract than that, I'd suggest "Ars Moriendi", "The Girls of Porn" (Incubus ripped this song off on all their early stuff), "Carousel", and "Quote Unquote".

Matt Till · #13 01-27-2003, 11:48 PM

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Originally posted by Bassline1414
No one said Mr. Bungle! A good example of jazz metal is "Carry Stress in the Jaw", although it's extremely insane. For something less abstract than that, I'd suggest "Ars Moriendi", "The Girls of Porn" (Incubus ripped this song off on all their early stuff), "Carousel", and "Quote Unquote".

shucks! beat me to it.

christoph h. · #14 01-28-2003, 07:19 AM

aghora's self titled album has been categorized as jazz-metal by some.

mcbosler · #15 01-28-2003, 10:38 AM

This is helping out a lot. Oh yeah - I've got Mr. Bungle already; I like Girls of Porn and My Ass is on Fire. Keep 'em comin' guys. My funds are not yet depleted.

carl-anton · #16 01-28-2003, 04:50 PM

I've have to promote my old heroes here:

ATHEIST!!!

Check out "Mother Man". - Cool music! ...and they've got a singing dog too

(...and mcbosler, that's the coolest member picture I've seen!!)

carl-anton · #17 01-28-2003, 04:55 PM

...oh, and Suicidal Tendencies is also worth to check out in that respect. ( "I wasn't meant to feel this (asleep at the wheel)" )

Exedore · #18 01-28-2003, 07:21 PM

I'll second all of the above...
Shai Hulud, Cave In and Zao are all good...
I've also heard good things about Isis although I haven't heard them.

Has anyone heard Botch's Anthology of Dead Ends?

DWBass · #19 01-31-2003, 10:01 AM

Is Death Metal music a huge thing in Europe (although I know of bands in Florida)?? I've been chatting with a young chap in Sweden and he swears by this music! Won't listen or acknowledge anything else no matter what!! He also want to fuse DM with Jazz and call it Death Jazz. He says it will make 'Jazz' better!! Besides the technical aspect of the genre, I'm sure it'll fit in somehow with the exception of the Cookie Monster vocals. Don't see how that'll fit in?! any comments?

thrash_jazz · #20 01-31-2003, 11:05 AM

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Originally posted by DWBass
Is Death Metal music a huge thing in Europe (although I know of bands in Florida)?? I've been chatting with a young chap in Sweden and he swears by this music! Won't listen or acknowledge anything else no matter what!! He also want to fuse DM with Jazz and call it Death Jazz. He says it will make 'Jazz' better!! Besides the technical aspect of the genre, I'm sure it'll fit in somehow with the exception of the Cookie Monster vocals. Don't see how that'll fit in?! any comments?

It's much more popular in Europe than it is over here. Over here, there's more than Florida too... the West Coast, New York, Montreal, to name just a mere few, all have their own scenes with fairly distinctive sounds.

As far as the vocals go, I'd say go instrumental... although a mixture of Cookie Monster and Lounge Lizard has been done... Mr. Bungle being an interesting example of this...