Jazz piano trio /w electric bass

[JHL]

Got together with a couple of friends the other day in the studio.

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[Tampabass]

nice playing, all around, and very tasty bass solo.

[cnltb]

Originally Posted by Tampabass

nice playing, all around, and very tasty bass solo.

+1+1+1

[pbass888]

wow. Very nice work. souund like brother Ray himself. Reminds of the version by oscar peterson trio . Fanastic feel all around and nice use of thumb for thumpy walking lines. Tasty solo too, nice lines and phrasing!
Great job!!
Best
Sri

[shwashwa]

sounds great. just alittle overboard on the muting in my opinion. if my walking lines were that staccato on my upright id be thinking there was a problem. upright players usually try to make the lines as legato as possible, but they're not quite as legato as an electric bass. i think a good way around this is to simply turn the volume down during the walking, that way you hear the attack and since the volume is low the decay doesnt ring through quite as much. patitucci talks about this exact thing when trying to swing on electric. check out charles ables. he swings his ass off on electric without any muting at all.

edit: just checked out your other stuff. its great! dont try to make the electric bass sound like an upright. it never will. embrace the electric bass for the instrument that it is and all its strengths.

[bassbrad]

Thanks for sharing I agree with all the above, nice solo.
Compliments to the drummer for the nice brush work
Like the turn around arranged part.
The thumb mute was nicely done but explore other possibilities of swinging on the electric, try playing lightly over the fingerboard.

[shwashwa]

the master explaining this exact concept (legato):

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[JHL]

Originally Posted by shwashwa

sounds great. just alittle overboard on the muting in my opinion. if my walking lines were that staccato on my upright id be thinking there was a problem. upright players usually try to make the lines as legato as possible, but they're not quite as legato as an electric bass. i think a good way around this is to simply turn the volume down during the walking, that way you hear the attack and since the volume is low the decay doesnt ring through quite as much. patitucci talks about this exact thing when trying to swing on electric. check out charles ables. he swings his ass off on electric without any muting at all.

edit: just checked out your other stuff. its great! dont try to make the electric bass sound like an upright. it never will. embrace the electric bass for the instrument that it is and all its strengths.

Originally Posted by bassbrad

Thanks for sharing I agree with all the above, nice solo.
Compliments to the drummer for the nice brush work
Like the turn around arranged part.
The thumb mute was nicely done but explore other possibilities of swinging on the electric, try playing lightly over the fingerboard.

Thanks everyone for you comments.

In regards to the above quotes,

shwashwa, I don't quite understand where you're going with your comment. On one hand you say that upright players play in a certain way, and that I'm not achieving that sound. Then you do a 180 and say that I shouldn't try to sound like an upright. I understand that this might not be your ideal sound, and that's cool. I, however, dig it.

Bassbrad, I do sometimes play lightly over the fingerboard. I might choose to not play that way within a song because that is my taste.

[Carver]

Oh yeah...I like this a lot.

[SteveC]

Originally Posted by shwashwa

sounds great. just a little overboard on the muting in my opinion.

This was my thought. I like the mute thing, but - for my taste - it was a little short. If that's your thing, that's fine, I'm just sharing my opinion.

I liked how you changed it up for the solo. I actually liked that tone a lot, maybe use it more.

Nice playing from all.

[skychief]

This is wonderful. Dont pay any attention to the h8ers.

Im forwarding the youtube link to my BL. We cover this tune but it gets kinda busy in spots. He needs to know how this tune should sound. Cheers.

[Mojo-Man]

Originally Posted by Carver

Oh yeah...I like this a lot.

+1
Nice tone, sweet solo.
Keep it up.

[JHL]

Originally Posted by LM Bass

Nice playing by everyone. I have to pile on with the others and say that the muting was distracting for me. It's really okay to play long notes on electric for walking.

On the other hand, it's great that you have this technique down so well. It's all a matter of taste and individuality in the end, so do your thing!

The solo is really great, in the tradition, with great lines and ideas.

A fun thing to do with this tune is to modulate to Ab for the second half. Check it out! Thanks for posting.
Laurence Mollerup, Vancouver

I'm starting to see how distracting the muting is now, since we actually are modulating to Ab for the second half.

[henry2513]

Very nice thumbs up!

[rms2]

Great playing! I like the tone you're getting, fits the vibe of the tune and group. And very tasteful walking lines and solo.

And I really dig the Ampeg full stack! (even though it looks like you're playing through something else) Made me think I'd love to see the looks on the faces of the guys in my Jazz trio if I showed up to the gig with that rig!

[shwashwa]

Originally Posted by JHL

Thanks everyone for you comments.

In regards to the above quotes,

shwashwa, I don't quite understand where you're going with your comment. On one hand you say that upright players play in a certain way, and that I'm not achieving that sound. Then you do a 180 and say that I shouldn't try to sound like an upright. I understand that this might not be your ideal sound, and that's cool. I, however, dig it.

Bassbrad, I do sometimes play lightly over the fingerboard. I might choose to not play that way within a song because that is my taste.

you shouldnt try to sound like an upright. what i was saying is that even upright players try not to walk staccato, with space between the notes. it doesnt really swing that way. that's why i linked to ray brown. if you dont take my word for it then take his! there is usually such a big punch at the beginning of an upright pizz note that it may create the illusion of sounding like there is a great deal of space between notes, but i really think most upright players work very hard to connect the notes, not keep them seperate. its a valid style to seperate the notes, but its usually associated with very early jazz, and it sounded to me like you're more interested in more modern stuff, but maybe im wrong.
maybe its not the muting that sounded weird to me , but maybe it was the space between the notes. that may be a left hand issue. if you can nail the muted sound while remaining legato you'll really be onto something! (upright bass strings do have more damping materials inside them than electric strings have.) so if you can mute the strings to create that upright string sound, but still keep it grooving and legato you'll be there. ill bet its tough to find the sweet spot.

[JHL]

Originally Posted by shwashwa

you shouldnt try to sound like an upright. what i was saying is that even upright players try not to walk staccato, with space between the notes. it doesnt really swing that way. that's why i linked to ray brown. if you dont take my word for it then take his! there is usually such a big punch at the beginning of an upright pizz note that it may create the illusion of sounding like there is a great deal of space between notes, but i really think most upright players work very hard to connect the notes, not keep them seperate. its a valid style to seperate the notes, but its usually associated with very early jazz, and it sounded to me like you're more interested in more modern stuff, but maybe im wrong.
maybe its not the muting that sounded weird to me , but maybe it was the space between the notes. that may be a left hand issue. if you can nail the muted sound while remaining legato you'll really be onto something! (upright bass strings do have more damping materials inside them than electric strings have.) so if you can mute the strings to create that upright string sound, but still keep it grooving and legato you'll be there. ill bet its tough to find the sweet spot.

I hear ya. I actually think the space between notes is dependant on how loud you listen to the recording. If you crank the volume a bit you can hear that there's hardly any space in between notes. Listening to it on low volume can give the impression of me playing staccato, but it's just because you mainly hear the attack and not the decay, which is a bit lower in volume.

[joe vegas]

great, all around! and great bass tone.
the muting was handled with a lot of subtlety and sophistication!

suggestion- check out Anthony Jackson's approach to a tune where muting figures in- he tends to alternate walking choruses of cool upright-like muting with choruses of gorgeous full-note, long-tone walking, where his mighty 6 really gets a chance to speak. just food for thought. but.. most enjoyable track!

[lucas vigor]

Hell yeah! Nice to see some real music for a change!

Great playing from all members of your band!



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[chanson]

Originally Posted by joe vegas

great, all around! and great bass tone.
the muting was handled with a lot of subtlety and sophistication!

suggestion- check out Anthony Jackson's approach to a tune where muting figures in- he tends to alternate walking choruses of cool upright-like muting with choruses of gorgeous full-note, long-tone walking, where his mighty 6 really gets a chance to speak. just food for thought. but.. most enjoyable track!

Any recordings you could point to where AJ does that?

Anyway, awesome playing all around. I don't think the muting detracts from your playing at all. It gives it a soft tone, whether or not is is "supposed" to sound like a double bass.