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09-20-2005, 02:37 PM
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I've been a huge fan of Jaco and Stanley for a while now, but I want something new. By that, I mean I want some GOOD Jazz with a kickass bass player. Any suggestions? |
09-20-2005, 06:36 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: New Jersey | | | Charles Minugs, "Ah Um". |
09-20-2005, 06:47 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Naples, Italy | | | +1 on the Mingus. The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady is another of my favorites.
Also, just about anything by Miles Davis. One of his best bassists was Ron Carter. Sorcerer and Nefertiti are two favorites of mine. If you're more into electric bass in jazz, try Live/Evil. |
09-20-2005, 07:05 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Long Island, NY | | | ^Yeah, I prefer the Electric, but I have nothing against upright. I'm just not a big fan of the sound of an upright. Anyway, I'll check these out, I've heard nothing but great things about Mingus, but for some reason never looked into it. Thanks guys, and keep 'em coming. |
09-20-2005, 07:12 PM
|  | Mayday! Moderator | | Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Jackson, MS | | | Jacob Fred Jazz Oddyssey
Medeski Martin and Wood
Morphine
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Miles Davis had some great electric bands in his pre-retirement fusion period.
I'm not a huge fan of his later stuff with Marcus Miller, but those recordings are okay. |
09-20-2005, 10:40 PM
|  | Looking like a born-again. Living like a heretic. Moderator | | Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: California | | | Check out Oscar Pettiford. He's got a number of albums under his own name.
Also check Pettiford/Burke, a record that combines and O.P. album with a lesser known bassist called Vinnie Burke.
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09-22-2005, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by abark000 Jacob Fred Jazz Oddyssey
Medeski Martin and Wood
Morphine
Trio Convulsant
Miles Davis had some great electric bands in his pre-retirement fusion period.
I'm not a huge fan of his later stuff with Marcus Miller, but those recordings are okay. | Respectfully, is Morphine really considered a jazz group?
+1 on JFJO and MMW though.
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09-22-2005, 09:17 AM
|  | put a bird on it | | Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Minnesota | | | yeah, JFJO is awesome, imo reed mathis is doing something that jazz has never seen (or heard) before. |
09-22-2005, 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by harmolodic Respectfully, is Morphine really considered a jazz group?
+1 on JFJO and MMW though. | By my definition yes. By some genre-nazi's definition, probably not. 2/3's of the band was jazz oriented, Sandman brought the rock and the drone. |
09-22-2005, 10:25 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: London, UK | | | Look for anything featuring these bassists (can't go wrong):
Steve Swallow
Butch Warren
Eberhard Weber
Milt Hinton
Jimmy Blanton
Oscar Pettiford
Ray Brown
Paul Chambers
Percy Heath
Charles Mingus
Scott LaFaro
Jimmy Garrison
Charlie Haden
Bob Cranshaw
Ron Carter
Gary Peacock
Eddie Gomez
Marc Johnson
Dave Holland
Peter Ind
Rufus Reid
NHOP
Miroslav Vitous
George Mraz
Palle Danielsson
Buster Williams
Jaco Pastorius
Stanley Clarke
Christian McBride
John Patitucci
Reggie Workman
Dominique di Piazza
Anthony Jackson
Chris Laurence
Larry Bartley |
09-22-2005, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by abark000 By my definition yes. By some genre-nazi's definition, probably not. 2/3's of the band was jazz oriented, Sandman brought the rock and the drone. | I'm trying to be as nice as possible about this, but I will respectfully disagree with you. They were a great drone-y rock band that had a fat bari sax in place of guitar, but they wern't a jazz group. My opinion. And remember, I said they were a great band. I used to listen to "Yes" and "Cure for Pain" a lot back in the day.
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09-22-2005, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by harmolodic I'm trying to be as nice as possible about this, but I will respectfully disagree with you. They were a great drone-y rock band that had a fat bari sax in place of guitar, but they wern't a jazz group. My opinion. And remember, I said they were a great band. I used to listen to "Yes" and "Cure for Pain" a lot back in the day. | It's cool, I really try not to buy into the complexities of genres, so label it whatever you would like. I more of a "square peg won't fit in a round hole" type listener.
The Mass has out and out jazz moments, horns in the air metal moments, and moments that are just something only they have done. To label them as "simply" metal is not true. They have metal roots, but they have major jazz roots also.
Basically, toma-to, tomat-o. |
09-22-2005, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by abark000 It's cool, I really try not to buy into the complexities of genres, so label it whatever you would like. I more of a "square peg won't fit in a round hole" type listener.
The Mass has out and out jazz moments, horns in the air metal moments, and moments that are just something only they have done. To label them as "simply" metal is not true. They have metal roots, but they have major jazz roots also.
Basically, toma-to, tomat-o. | You know, I have been thinking this over, and in a way you could say Morphine has a jazz thing happening the same way Tom Waits does.
At any rate, I think I'm going to track down those old discs and give them another spin.
I have seen you mention The Mass on here several times and have been intrigued. Will I be able to find their discs in stores or will I have to order them online?
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09-22-2005, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by harmolodic You know, I have been thinking this over, and in a way you could say Morphine has a jazz thing happening the same way Tom Waits does.
At any rate, I think I'm going to track down those old discs and give them another spin.
I have seen you mention The Mass on here several times and have been intrigued. Will I be able to find their discs in stores or will I have to order them online? | In a store, doubtful. You might be able to order it from the local record shop of your choice. Cdnow.com has their major label debut. Cdbaby.com has their indie label release.
They have a new one coming out sometime soon. I've only heard one song off of it, but it was very good.
Check them out if you haven't already. Link If you can find a mp3 of the song La Porc, download it, this song showcases everything that I like about them.
Ephel Duath is more odd-time Prog-oriented and has many jazz-guitar moments. ephelduath.net
If you are getting back into Morphine and Tom Waits, I urge you to check out a local band called Circus of the Seed. www.circusoftheseed.com Similar vibe, sans the slide bass/drunken huskiness.
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09-22-2005, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by David Benyahia Look for anything featuring these bassists (can't go wrong):
Steve Swallow
Butch Warren
Eberhard Weber
Milt Hinton
Jimmy Blanton
Oscar Pettiford
Ray Brown
Paul Chambers
Percy Heath
Charles Mingus
Scott LaFaro
Jimmy Garrison
Charlie Haden
Bob Cranshaw
Ron Carter
Gary Peacock
Eddie Gomez
Marc Johnson
Dave Holland
Peter Ind
Rufus Reid
NHOP
Miroslav Vitous
George Mraz
Palle Danielsson
Buster Williams
Jaco Pastorius
Stanley Clarke
Christian McBride
John Patitucci
Reggie Workman
Dominique di Piazza
Anthony Jackson
Chris Laurence
Larry Bartley | Great list. Let me just add some new comers:
Charnett Moffett
Avashai Cohen
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