Jazz Standards on EBG?

Lowtonejoe · #1 11-16-2010, 01:38 AM

Can anyone suggest an album of jazz standards with great walking done on electric bass guitar?

Thanks.

Joe.

Lowtonejoe · #2 11-20-2010, 07:10 PM

Well this kind of sucks.

Joe.

Renaissance · #3 11-20-2010, 07:31 PM

You can always check out our stuff at facebook.com/StardustJazzBand. Not that I'm even coming close to suggesting it's great playing but I really hate to miss an opportunity to self promote! =)

Lowtonejoe · #4 11-20-2010, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Renaissance

You can always check out our stuff at facebook.com/StardustJazzBand. Not that I'm even coming close to suggesting it's great playing but I really hate to miss an opportunity to self promote! =)

Heh heh,

Thanks! I will.

Joe.

Shakin-Slim · #5 11-20-2010, 07:38 PM

Jaco Pastorius with the Brian Melvin Trio 'Standards Zone' is the album. Not altogether standards but great walking. Same for Jaco's album Curtain Call

Lowtonejoe · #6 11-20-2010, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Renaissance

You can always check out our stuff at facebook.com/StardustJazzBand. Not that I'm even coming close to suggesting it's great playing but I really hate to miss an opportunity to self promote! =)

Yes! This is exactly the kind of stuff I am looking for! Got any more? Know where I can find more?

Thanks man!

Joe.

Lowtonejoe · #7 11-20-2010, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Shakin-Slim

Jaco Pastorius with the Brian Melvin Trio 'Standards Zone' is the album. Not altogether standards but great walking. Same for Jaco's album Curtain Call

Yup!

I have Standards Zone. I will have to check out Curtain Call. But I'm really looking for stuff like what Renaissance plays.

Any suggestions for that? (But thanks for the others.)

Joe.

dpbass66 · #8 11-20-2010, 07:56 PM

Mike Stern recorded a tune called "Bait Tone Blues". I dont know the album, but the tune is a swing blues in F with a really cool head. Jeff Andrews is ABSOLUTELY smokin' while he WALKS on the EBG, THEN....(get out your manuscript paper, sharpen your pencil and get ready)...he takes one of the killingest bebop style solos on EBG. His lines sound like Charlie Parker, so fluid and bebop, great rhythmic stuff too....I transcribed his walking AND the solo just to get some of his stuff down.....

Google the tune and then download it, you wont be disappointed!!!!

Lowtonejoe · #9 11-20-2010, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by dpbass66

Mike Stern recorded a tune called "Bait Tone Blues". I dont know the album, but the tune is a swing blues in F with a really cool head. Jeff Andrews is ABSOLUTELY smokin' while he WALKS on the EBG, THEN....(get out your manuscript paper, sharpen your pencil and get ready)...he takes one of the killingest bebop style solos on EBG. His lines sound like Charlie Parker, so fluid and bebop, great rhythmic stuff too....I transcribed his walking AND the solo just to get some of his stuff down.....

Google the tune and then download it, you wont be disappointed!!!!

Will do!

Joe.

Renaissance · #10 11-20-2010, 09:09 PM

Hey Joe,
What are you trying to compile songs for? Are you trying to work on walking lines, build a setlist, etc.? I'm in the hospital with my dad right now but I'll be back home in a few days and I'll be glad to send you a list of the songs we do. I've got a few other recordings of us but I would hate to think you are trying to learn anything by listening to me playing. I justify my poor note choices/playing by saying I subscribe to Victor Wooten's philosophy of "get the rhythm/feel correct and the pitch isn't as important"!

There are a lot of really good old songs out there being done by current artists. Jane Monheit (youtube Cheek To Cheek), Diana Krall, Brenda Russell, Harry Connick, Jr., Michael Buble, even good ol' Tony Bennett. Youtube is your friend!

If there is anything else I can do to help, just let me know.

funkifiedsoul · #11 11-20-2010, 09:19 PM

Search Steve Swallow, sorry I haven't a title at the moment.

Lowtonejoe · #12 11-20-2010, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Renaissance

Hey Joe,
What are you trying to compile songs for? Are you trying to work on walking lines, build a setlist, etc.? I'm in the hospital with my dad right now but I'll be back home in a few days and I'll be glad to send you a list of the songs we do. I've got a few other recordings of us but I would hate to think you are trying to learn anything by listening to me playing. I justify my poor note choices/playing by saying I subscribe to Victor Wooten's philosophy of "get the rhythm/feel correct and the pitch isn't as important"!

There are a lot of really good old songs out there being done by current artists. Jane Monheit (youtube Cheek To Cheek), Diana Krall, Brenda Russell, Harry Connick, Jr., Michael Buble, even good ol' Tony Bennett. Youtube is your friend!

If there is anything else I can do to help, just let me know.

Yup, I'm workin' on walkin'.

The thing is, as much as I love (seriously) listening to a walking double bass, I have trouble 'getting it' on an ebg. Hence my search for these tunes being done on an ebg by someone who isn't trying to be the next Jaco. Not that I wouldn't mind being the next Jaco!

I played ebg in a jazz band for a couple of years and all I really did was follow a chord chart playing mostly a root five kind of pattern while connecting it with tones from the scale that the key was in. I think I did a good job all things considered but it definitely wasn't real walking.

What I am dying to hear are the songs I played in the band on an ebg so I can 'relate' and fill in my educational gaps. I've done a bunch of homework (chord and scale construction) and feel ready to start doing it 'for real'. As much as I can at this point anyway. I don't read music and have never had a teacher so it has been tough.

Any help in getting tunes or general suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

And I hope everything is o.k. at the hospital.

Thanks!

Joe.

Lowtonejoe · #13 11-20-2010, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by funkifiedsoul

Search Steve Swallow, sorry I haven't a title at the moment.

I've only heard one Steve Swallow tune (Name that Tune w/Scofield) and although the guy totally kicks it...all I really get from it is a feeling of stunned inadequacy.

Just kidding...but the guy is way beyond me and tough for me to follow in a practical sense.

However, when I have the opportunity and a few extra bucks I WILL get more of him.

Thanks!

Joe.

funkifiedsoul · #14 11-21-2010, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Lowtonejoe

...all I really get from it is a feeling of stunned inadequacy.

haha. In that, you are not alone.

fdeck · #15 11-21-2010, 07:57 PM

"Real Book" by Steve Swallow isn't standards, but is a collection of bebop tunes. Oddly enough the CD includes a tiny booklet with the lead sheets. And he's definitely not trying to make it sound like upright.

Renaissance · #16 11-21-2010, 09:41 PM

Hey Joe,

Thank you, everything at the hospital is going very well!

I'm flattered you like our demo and I wish I could give you the "big secret" but the truth is I don't have a secret. Personally I don't care much for busy Jaco type bass players. I prefer to set it on cruise and remain fairly unnoticed. Sync up with the drummer and outline the chord changes. I try to hit the root on 1 and then work my way (staying within the chord as much as possible) to the next 1. I guess the thing I do best is homework. I sit down with the chord changes and write out what sounds like a walking bass line to me. I suppose it's kinda silly but I plan my lines like sine waves flowing smoothly between upper and lower ranges as the song allows. The benefit I guess is every song I complete makes the next one a little easier for me to hear "the line". Maybe in another 50 years I'll be half way decent! I've also never tried to copy an upright sound because, well, I'm not playing an upright.

Well, enough pontificating from me. I hope this was helpful. It certainly made me feel better to finally -publicly- announce what a poser jazz bassists I am!!!

Lowtonejoe · #17 11-21-2010, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Renaissance

Hey Joe,

Thank you, everything at the hospital is going very well!

I'm flattered you like our demo and I wish I could give you the "big secret" but the truth is I don't have a secret. Personally I don't care much for busy Jaco type bass players. I prefer to set it on cruise and remain fairly unnoticed. Sync up with the drummer and outline the chord changes. I try to hit the root on 1 and then work my way (staying within the chord as much as possible) to the next 1. I guess the thing I do best is homework. I sit down with the chord changes and write out what sounds like a walking bass line to me. I suppose it's kinda silly but I plan my lines like sine waves flowing smoothly between upper and lower ranges as the song allows. The benefit I guess is every song I complete makes the next one a little easier for me to hear "the line". Maybe in another 50 years I'll be half way decent! I've also never tried to copy an upright sound because, well, I'm not playing an upright.

Well, enough pontificating from me. I hope this was helpful. It certainly made me feel better to finally -publicly- announce what a poser jazz bassists I am!!!

I'm glad things are going well!

O.k., either great minds think alike or we're both just a couple of knuckleheads but what you described is EXACTLY the direction I am headed. You are just further down that road than I am.

I think you guys sound great! Any chance of downloading .mp3's of your tunes from somewhere? Or a CD I could buy from you?

Joe.

bjm · #18 11-21-2010, 10:47 PM

Not exactly standard, but definitely straight ahead jazz with lots of walking (as well as latin and hooky parts on some tunes) on EBG.

Gordon Goodwin's Big Phat Band

Try the album "XXL", esp. the clarinet solo section on "Thad Said No" and the trumpet solo section on "What Sammy Said".

You might also check out the "Tonight Show Band" vols I & II with Doc Severinson leading and Joel Dibartolo on bass.:

Beguine the Beguine, One O'Clock Jump, Tippin' In, etc. Lots of really great walking on these - it's either EBG or amplified upright, but it has a very electric sound with lots of sustain.

-jeff

Lowtonejoe · #19 11-21-2010, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by bjm

Not exactly standard, but definitely straight ahead jazz with lots of walking (as well as latin and hooky parts on some tunes) on EBG.

Gordon Goodwin's Big Phat Band

Try the album "XXL", esp. the clarinet solo section on "Thad Said No" and the trumpet solo section on "What Sammy Said".

You might also check out the "Tonight Show Band" vols I & II with Doc Severinson leading and Joel Dibartolo on bass.:

Beguine the Beguine, One O'Clock Jump, Tippin' In, etc. Lots of really great walking on these - it's either EBG or amplified upright, but it has a very electric sound with lots of sustain.

-jeff

Hey thanks!

If I can find these I'll check them out!

Joe.

Renaissance · #20 11-22-2010, 06:40 AM

Hey Joe,

I'll meet you halfway, I'll claim the knucklehead part and you can have the great mind.

I'm like you - I keep working on my playing because I would eventually like to know what I'm doing, but until that time comes, this method works.

Give me a day or so and I'll either put the mp3s up for download on the website or I'll email them to you or something.

Later,

Charles