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Old 04-27-2010, 11:25 PM
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Joe Frazier solo

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Jeff Berlin is one of the greatest. I am learning this solo. Do you think it was an improvisation or the solo was constructed preaviously????
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Old 04-28-2010, 04:26 AM
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Jeff's Thread. No Topic! Just Go for It. But, Be Nice!

...go to the source.
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Old 04-28-2010, 04:38 AM
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That music is really not my cup of tea but the man can play a solo. I belive it was more or less constructed. The source wont answer these questions.
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Old 04-28-2010, 08:22 AM
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...well, it is a snapshot of '70s/'80s Rock-Jazz Fusion.
"Joe Frazier" was considered one of the 3 big 'bass anthems' at that time ("School Days" & "Teen Town" being the 2 others).

I know JB had comments about Jaco's solo on "Havona". A little surprised he won't field questions about what went down on "Joe Frazier".
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Old 04-28-2010, 01:09 PM
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I don't know whether the "Joe Frazier" solo was improvised or constructed in advance...but if I had to guess, I'd say it was improvised at some time, and then Jeff subsequently transcribed what he'd improvised so that he could play it verbatim as a motific device.

Remember, Gradually Going Tornado was recorded in 1980, when it was technically convoluted & rather time-consuming to fly parts around from one location of the multitrack to the other (unlike today). Would've been far faster for Jeff to simply play the solo a second time for the recap.

But to my ear it definitely has the shape, musical vocabulary, and "statistical density" of a Jeff Berlin extemporaneous solo, which is why I suspect it was originally an off-the-cuff improvisation. It's just that that time of origin may have been well before the "Joe Frazier" recording sessions.

Like I said, I'm just guessing.
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