Joni and Jaco

justBrian · #1 12-29-2006, 09:47 AM

I got the Joni Mitchell Shadows and Light DVD for Christmas and it is amazing. There are some cheesy clips, but the music is great. Her band lineup includes: Pat Metheny, Jaco, Lyle Mays, Don Alias, and Michael Brecker. Steller perfomance by all, and two solo pieces by Jaco!

Ale · #2 12-29-2006, 10:00 AM

Yep , this is my favourite Jaco movie .
Amazing playing , wonderful . Jaco and Don Alias was an amazing combination. They do "Coyote" amazing , such as "Hejira" the best versions ive heard.
The only thing i dont like is theese clips all the time , Joni skating , pictures of coyotes etc.
Very corny lol.

Scottgun · #3 12-29-2006, 10:06 AM

I'll have to check that out. If you haven't, also check out her album Mingus.

Scott

jady · #4 12-29-2006, 10:07 AM

And Don Juan's Reckless Daughter, great playing from Jaco!!!

Yvon · #5 12-29-2006, 10:20 AM

My favorite cut on the dvd bass wise is "in France they kiss on main street".
Amazing playing from everyone.

blipndub · #6 12-29-2006, 10:32 AM

Heijara is my fav of that era of musical brilliance. Personally I would rather listen to jaco than watch him. He's kind of skeevy.

justBrian · #7 12-29-2006, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Ale

The only thing i dont like is theese clips all the time , Joni skating , pictures of coyotes etc.
Very corny lol.

Well, it was 1979...

Ale · #8 12-29-2006, 03:34 PM

Well , IMO Hejira is the best album with jaco , actually its my favourite nr.1 jaco album. Wonderful playing , everythime i hear the intro on the song Hejira , i start to freeze , but in a good way

I never liked Don Juan's Reckless Daughter that much , dont know why. But "mingus" is great , especially good by pork pie hat.

justBrian · #9 12-30-2006, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Ale

But "mingus" is great , especially good by pork pie hat.

Man, I really love that song. There's one point where she holds out an incredibly long note that just does it for me.

4Mal · #10 12-30-2006, 10:42 AM

John McLaughlin's "My Goal's Beyond" has my all time fav Good Bye Pork Pie Hat version.

Oddly, the Mingus Big Band version is one of my least favorites. He's a guy who I respect as a composer much more than as a bassist. Then again my reference for upright guys would be Ray Brown. Stylistically, as players - Mingus & Brown are poles apart though so maybe that's no suprise.

Part of what makes Jaco's playng on Joni's stuff so good - is Joni's writing. You listen to her develop as a writer and a singer and it just keeps getting jazzier.

I saw the Shadows & Light tour and it remains one of the very best live music experiences I've had. Simply amazing. Of course today they would have the 'vireo-tron' screen with the Coyote's and skating scenes going full bore ... maybe it's good that tour was pre big screen.

Mojo-Man · #11 12-31-2006, 12:30 AM

I was lucky enough to see Jaco twice with Joni.

To me, some of his best playing.
The band just killed.

Ale · #12 12-31-2006, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Mojo-Man

I was lucky enough to see Jaco twice with Joni.

To me, some of his best playing.
The band just killed.

Man , your lucky.
I wasnt born yet

Ale · #13 12-31-2006, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by justBrian

Man, I really love that song. There's one point where she holds out an incredibly long note that just does it for me.

Yeah , and the verion on the DVD is great to !

derrenleepoole · #14 01-02-2007, 03:33 AM

I can understand why people perhaps don't rate Don Juan's Wreckless Daughter over other Joni/Jaco albums such as Mingus and Hejiera. Let's face it, Jaco only plays bass on a handleful of tracks on this album compared with the others. But that's okay with me. For me Don Jaun is a far more masterful album in terms of song writing and arranging. On the compositions Jaco does play bass on on this album, he really really excels. Incredibly inventive playing with playful percussive touches and harmonic loveliness that interweaves and accents Joni's vocal lines perfectly. Superb all round. Don't get me wrong Mingus is also very very good. I like Hejiera, but would rather listen to the other albums first!

Eminentbass · #15 01-02-2007, 05:45 AM

I also got Shadows and Light a few weeks ago. I love the music but the pretentious, trippy cinematography really got on my nerves... chances are I'll stick to listening without the visual. I originally got it for Jaco but it also really got me into Pat Metheny's playing.

zombywoof5050 · #16 01-02-2007, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by derrenleepoole

I can understand why people perhaps don't rate Don Juan's Wreckless Daughter over other Joni/Jaco albums such as Mingus and Hejiera. Let's face it, Jaco only plays bass on a handleful of tracks on this album compared with the others.

Are you sure about that?
I though "Hejira" was the album in which Jaco didn't play on all the songs (Max Bennett was the other bass player).

bassist15 · #17 01-02-2007, 03:23 PM

On Hejira Jaco only plays on two tracks

Ale · #18 01-02-2007, 03:24 PM

Hejira was allready done and recorded when Joni heard of Jaco .
Jaco overdubbed Max Bennets playing , thats why hes not on all the songs.

Ale · #19 01-02-2007, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by bassist15

On Hejira Jaco only plays on two tracks

LoL , he does not play two tracks.
Coyote , Hejira , Black Crow , A strange boy and Refuges of the roads.

derrenleepoole · #20 01-03-2007, 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by zombywoof5050

Are you sure about that?
I though "Hejira" was the album in which Jaco didn't play on all the songs (Max Bennett was the other bass player).

The point I was making was this - if people are listening to Joni albums for the sole purpose of listening to Jaco's playing then 'Don Juan' is not the best choice, simply because he doesn't play on many tracks. I wasn't aware that Jaco didn't play on all the tracks on Hejira (but I did say it wasn't my favourite album either), but a quick scout around on the Jaco website confirms that he only plays on tracks 1, 5, 7 & 9, with Max Bennett on tracks 3 & 6 and Chuck Domanico on track 8.