On listening to Kraftwerk ...

TheButler · #1 01-09-2007, 02:23 PM

Well, I was listening to Kraftwerk (as u do, I am a big fan, all their albums etc.) Well anyway I was listening to the song Computer Love when i realized that the melody of it has been USED by coldplay on one of their tracks (which i can't think of the name of right now.) If anyone else familiar with this song could confirm this i'd like to know

Professor X · #2 01-09-2007, 02:36 PM

OMFG... i was ranting about this last year and i couldn't find ANYONE who had ever heard "computerlove" i agree that they are totally the same melody and chris martin is a thief... (and i'd totally do his wife

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TheButler · #3 01-09-2007, 02:41 PM

I was actually serious P!ssed off with it. I know it is petty i just want everyone to know. Can't believe not many other people agreed with you, I am massive Kraftwerk fan, sad i know i am only 16

Wasim · #4 01-09-2007, 04:03 PM

The song is called Talk. Coldplay acknowledged Kraftwerk's melody being used, both on the album credits and in the media. Kraftwerk apparently were informed and had no objections. So it is a bit harsh to say it was 'ripped off' but it was recycled definately.

Matt Till · #5 01-09-2007, 04:05 PM

Well, with that mystery solved... I love Kraftwerk. As far as their "proto techno" stuff, I love Radio Activity... such a weird album.

Their early early recordings were more weird Krautrock synth noodling, which I dig a bit more though.

Professor X · #6 01-09-2007, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Wasim

The song is called Talk. Coldplay acknowledged Kraftwerk's melody being used, both on the album credits and in the media. Kraftwerk apparently were informed and had no objections. So it is a bit harsh to say it was 'ripped off' but it was recycled definately.

oh... well then in that case i take back what i said previously... (but i'd still do his wife

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TheButler · #7 01-10-2007, 11:32 AM

Oh well thats good they got acknowledged

I have the albums from way back, Tone Float for example sounds like 'world' music

Embryodead · #8 01-10-2007, 03:05 PM

Call me when Coldplay figures out how to rip off Pocket Calculator ;-)

emblymouse · #9 01-10-2007, 03:12 PM

When I first heard 'Talk' I was disgusted at the blatent rip. As long a the Kraftwerk boys get their props (and a royalty check), I guess...I'll just be annoyed. It would never enter my mind to lift an intact melody and pad it. I don't consider that songwriting.

TheButler · #10 01-10-2007, 03:25 PM

I am still annoyed even though they gave Kraftwerk acknowledgment. I am not a Coldplay fan though so i suppose this helps fuel my rage !

idoru · #11 01-12-2007, 02:32 AM

Feed your hate, young Skywalker!

My dad's a kraut, so I heard heaps of Kraftwerk growing up. Rammstein did a great cover of the Model, 'Das Model'.

Peter McFerrin · #12 01-12-2007, 03:07 AM

That's a pretty awesome hook and melody, so nicking it wouldn't be that big of a deal. What's obnoxious, though, is that "Talk" is a note-for-note copy of "Computer Love," even in the arrangement. Simply setting different lyrics to it is the kind of thing one would expect from P(uff) D(a/i)ddy.

TheButler · #13 01-12-2007, 11:50 AM

Das Model by rammstein is great, in fact we would play it all the time in my band. Oh, and btw i am still quite annoyed

Baryonyx · #14 01-12-2007, 12:24 PM

I've never heard either of the tunes mentioned, but the old-skool Kraftwerk stuff was neat. So very German, and Germany in the 1980's was banging.

wtg203 · #15 01-12-2007, 12:33 PM

Take a listen to Kraftwerk's It's More Fun To Compute, then listen to Fergie's Fergilicious. Anyone else notice the sample? (not sure if fergie gave kraftwerk credit or not).

scottice · #16 01-12-2007, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by wtg203

Take a listen to Kraftwerk's It's More Fun To Compute, then listen to Fergie's Fergilicious. Anyone else notice the sample? (not sure if fergie gave kraftwerk credit or not).

I'll give Fergie credit for giving me the high h#$d one!
hehe

Mitchell Royce · #17 01-13-2007, 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris2112

I've never heard either of the tunes mentioned, but the old-skool Kraftwerk stuff was neat. So very German, and Germany in the 1980's was banging.

I usually try not to be a nitpicker but Kraftwerk were at their peak in the 70's. During the 80's bands started lifting their sound, which is why their music sounds sorta "80's".

TheButler · #18 01-13-2007, 06:18 AM

Agree'd 70's is better. 70's spawned all of the famous stuff, Autobahn, T.E.E, Radioactivity, man machine ... I also have the tone float, kraftwerk I, Ralf and Florian, Kraftwerk II that was early 70's. Really good stuff, it mixes traditional instruments with very early ''cutting-edge'' electronic sound, worth a listen

mlbarlow · #19 01-13-2007, 06:32 AM

Seems to me that it's common to use someone else's groove in a tasteful way, in many genres of music. Much as I enjoy Kraftwerk, I fail to see this as problematic (unless you're calling the whole industry problematic, which is a whole new thread).

Who the hell hasn't heard of Computer Love?

Baryonyx · #20 01-13-2007, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Mitchell Royce

which is why their music sounds sorta "80's".

Well, thats something I've always been fond of!