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09-01-2005, 11:09 AM
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Robert Walter anyone?!?  Not sure if this is an appropriate post for amps but I really want to know what the bassist is playing through on this recording. Its the tone I need to have, my holy grail if you will. Im going to go out on a limb and say its a p bass and SVT but I cant say for sure. Its so thick, gooey, compressed, and gnarly sounding at times. Yes this is the tone I want!  Anyone have any info on what the bass player is using on this recording? | 
09-01-2005, 12:42 PM
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09-01-2005, 12:48 PM
| | Registered User Owner, Bill Fitzmaurice Loudspeaker Design | | Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: New Hampshire | | | Don't hold your breath on duplicating any tone you hear on a recording. Studio tricks aside, most of the time the bass is sent either direct to the console or there's a mix of direct and mic'd cabinet sources. This applies to live recordings as well. | 
09-01-2005, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by cheezewiz Roger Waters? P bass. |  thanks whiz but robert walter is the artist that released the album. i think the bassist is david carano. i have to find out what this guy used on the recording... its the end of the road in my quest for tone! | 
09-01-2005, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by billfitzmaurice Don't hold your breath on duplicating any tone you hear on a recording. Studio tricks aside, most of the time the bass is sent either direct to the console or there's a mix of direct and mic'd cabinet sources. This applies to live recordings as well. | thanks bill! i agree it may be a mix of mic and di but i know that the bulk of what im hearing is a mic'd amp. theres even a part where he digs in so hard you can hear the speakers chuff. i dont really hear studio tricks so much. this recording has a "warts and all" quality to it. | 
09-01-2005, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by billfitzmaurice Don't hold your breath on duplicating any tone you hear on a recording. Studio tricks aside, most of the time the bass is sent either direct to the console or there's a mix of direct and mic'd cabinet sources. This applies to live recordings as well. | I know how you can duplicate fIeLdY's tone!!!11!1!! roxors!1!!!!11!!1 
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09-01-2005, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by metron  thanks whiz but robert walter is the artist that released the album. i think the bassist is david carano. i have to find out what this guy used on the recording... its the end of the road in my quest for tone! |
My bad Metron. I thought you meant the Pink Floyd song "Money". | 
09-01-2005, 01:21 PM
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09-01-2005, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by crhoton Which Robert Walter album are you referring to? | money shot  | 
09-01-2005, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by metron money shot  | Sorry, I thought you were saying that the bass tone was akin to the "money shot"! | 
09-01-2005, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by crhoton Sorry, I thought you were saying that the bass tone was akin to the "money shot"! | BAAAAAAAAAAH HAAAAAA HAAA! 
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09-01-2005, 04:14 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2001 Location: St. Louis, MO USA | | | I listened to the 30 second clip on Amazon. It's either an old-school tube rig or a really good model (less likely). He's got it really dirty so it's harder to tell. I almost think there is something else in there to overdrive the preamp. I'd guess SVT first, but I could never get mine to distort that much without something in front of it.
The bass sounds a little like it is tubbed out with flatwounds. There's too much dirt in the tone for me to guess for sure what kind of bass. Probably from the P-bass genre, but who knows. | 
09-01-2005, 05:38 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Lakewood Colorado | | | thanks charles! yeah its not full on distortion like i get with my V-4B but very gritty or dirty sounding. i hadnt thought that he may be using distortion before the pre. could you get a tone like that out of your SVT when it starts to break up or not in any way? | 
09-01-2005, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Trevorus I know how you can duplicate fIeLdY's tone!!!11!1!! roxors!1!!!!11!!1  | With a hammer?
If you are going out on a limb and getting an SVT, erm, well, they all sound different ! (different age bands that is), basically older = better 
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09-01-2005, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by metron thanks charles! yeah its not full on distortion like i get with my V-4B but very gritty or dirty sounding. i hadnt thought that he may be using distortion before the pre. could you get a tone like that out of your SVT when it starts to break up or not in any way? | its probably the alure of the power tubes 
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