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05-24-2010, 04:00 AM
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The Rolling Stones have scored their first UK number one album for 16 years with a re-release of their classic LP Exile On Main Street.
The album, which was first released in 1972, has been reissued with previously unheard tracks. Their last number one album was 1994's Voodoo Lounge.
Another 1972 recording has appeared in the singles chart this week.
A song by Leeds United FC's 1972 squad, re-released to celebrate the club's recent promotion, is at number 10.
US rapper B.o.B is at number one on the singles chart with Nothin' On You, according to the Official Charts Company.
The Rolling Stones beat Faithless's latest release The Dance, which was a new entry at number two on the albums rundown.
Exile On Main Street has been dusted off to tie in with the release of a documentary about the making of the album, which includes tracks such as Tumbling Dice and Rocks Off.
David Joseph, chairman of the Stones's label Universal Music UK, said: "It's quite a result for an album from 1972 to be back at number one. It proves the Stones's music is as powerful today as when it was created."
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Although I personally think it's a great album, it saddens me a bit that something originally released in 1972 is topping the charts today.
I know it's not an original thought, but where's the vital new music that's gonna put the dinosaurs in the grave?
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05-24-2010, 04:22 AM
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Originally Posted by phatbass
David Joseph, chairman of the Stones's label Universal Music UK, said: "It's quite a result for an album from 1972 to be back at number one. It proves the Stones's music is as powerful today as when it was created." | Or goes to show the poor state of the music scene today - when we are looking at X Factor/Talent show Karaoke or people making recordings in their bedrooms.... 
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05-24-2010, 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Bruce Lindfield Or goes to show the poor state of the music scene today - when we are looking at X Factor/Talent show Karaoke or people making recordings in their bedrooms....  | And, oddly enough, the (very) few times I've been trapped into watching one of these <insert country> Idol-type shows, I really notice that the majority of songs being covered seem to be '80's and earlier.
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05-24-2010, 04:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Bruce Lindfield Or goes to show the poor state of the music scene today - when we are looking at X Factor/Talent show Karaoke or people making recordings in their bedrooms....  | Nah... this just shows that the only people still buying CD 'album format' music are old coots! Nothing gets an old coot excited like yet another remaster of old coot music  | 
05-24-2010, 04:43 AM
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Originally Posted by KJung Nah... this just shows that the only people still buying CD 'album format' music are old coots! Nothing gets an old coot excited like yet another remaster of old coot music  | There are probably a lot of factors involved - but I'm pretty sure this chart now also includes dowloads as well as CDs.
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05-24-2010, 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted by KJung Nah... this just shows that the only people still buying CD 'album format' music are old coots! Nothing gets an old coot excited like yet another remaster of old coot music  | *Raises hand sheepishly*
Sticky Fingers & Exile....their finest work IMO due largely in part to Mick Taylor.
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05-24-2010, 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Zooberwerx *Raises hand sheepishly*
Sticky Fingers & Exile....their finest work IMO due largely in part to Mick Taylor.
Riis | I'm an old coot too!  I love the era of the Stones. | 
05-24-2010, 06:13 AM
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05-24-2010, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by KJung I'm an old coot too!  I love the era of the Stones. | Let me add something else...
We once lived in an era where the release of an album was an anticipated event. Two examples I can think of are Elton John's "Captain Fantastic..." and Stevie Wonder's "Songs in the Key of Life". My lands, there were billboards, TV commercials, you name it! We'd buy them, rush home, and play them on our Technics turntables and Marantz stereo amplifiers. There was no MTV or youtube so we would beat ourselves on the head with rocks until the pretty colors appeared....and we were thankful for those rocks!
Okay, here's a test: how many of you 50+ codgers can name the songlist on "Who's Next" without looking at the label? I thought so....
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05-24-2010, 08:56 AM
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05-24-2010, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Zooberwerx Let me add something else...
We once lived in an era where the release of an album was an anticipated event. Two examples I can think of are Elton John's "Captain Fantastic..." and Stevie Wonder's "Songs in the Key of Life". My lands, there were billboards, TV commercials, you name it! We'd buy them, rush home, and play them on our Technics turntables and Marantz stereo amplifiers. There was no MTV or youtube so we would beat ourselves on the head with rocks until the pretty colors appeared....and we were thankful for those rocks!
Okay, here's a test: how many of you 50+ codgers can name the songlist on "Who's Next" without looking at the label? I thought so....
Riis | +1 all the way. I remember getting 'Songs in the Key of Life' for Christmas from my mom and dad back in the 70's. It was an 'event'. Same thing with the Return to Forever' albums, the Weather Report Albums, the Yes albums, etc., etc.... based on what kind of tunes you were into. I agree, amazing music in these albums, and the album order and concept also became a 'thing unto itself'.....
However, I stand by my earlier comment that the record industry is being kept alive by the old coots like me who actually think it is reasonable to buy every Beatles album AGAIN because it sounds a bit better, and the new packaging is cool! | 
05-24-2010, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by KJung +1 all the way. I remember getting 'Songs in the Key of Life' for Christmas from my mom and dad back in the 70's. It was an 'event'. Same thing with the Return to Forever' albums, the Weather Report Albums, the Yes albums, etc., etc.... based on what kind of tunes you were into. I agree, amazing music in these albums, and the album order and concept also became a 'thing unto itself'.....
| I agree that albums used to be big events in the 70s - but I think that nowadays maybe that has passed to TV series..?
So the Lost finale has been a big event in all the News, where it has been arranged as a simulcast across the world!
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05-24-2010, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Bruce Lindfield I agree that albums used to be big events in the 70s - but I think that nowadays maybe that has passed to TV series..?
So the Lost finale has been a big event in all the News, where it has been arranged as a simulcast across the world! | +1 My theory on why live music at the club level (the old 6 night a week gig at every decent restaurant and/or bar in town back in the 70's and 80s) has virtually disappeared is:
1) Cable TV
2) Stricter drunk driving enforcement.
The new deal is to stay home and watch one of the 100 channels on your big wumpin' TV and make yoru own cocktails!
Different world... glad I'm toward the end of my playing career and not at the beginning. | 
05-24-2010, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Bruce Lindfield Or goes to show the poor state of the music scene today - when we are looking at X Factor/Talent show Karaoke or people making recordings in their bedrooms....  | That and where the money is spent: Kids swipe/borrow music; Adults actually pay - and that is what is recorded. | 
05-24-2010, 12:56 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: valparaiso, in. | | | Luckily, all the festivals and various outdoor events seem to want live music. It helps make up for the lack of good bar gigs, and people seem to leave the 100 channels at home to come out to join in the fun. The beer and food helps too. KJung, I have no plan to ever be at the end of my music career, "till death do us part." | 
05-24-2010, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Bruce Lindfield I agree that albums used to be big events in the 70s | I remember when double live albums were the coolest thing ever!
I still love CDs and buy way too many of them. New Rush albums are still a freaking event! It is just that now I find about new albums in Facebook and blogs. I don't know of a radio station that really plays music I like.
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05-24-2010, 02:01 PM
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I remember record buying being a more communal experience. We would go down to the record stores on release day and everybody would buy a different album, then go back to somebody's basement or apartment and listen and discuss.
Buying a couple CDs a week is still a great pleasure for me. For me, the Beggars Banquet, Let It Bleed, Sticky Fingers and Exile On Main-street streak is one of the best artistic outputs from a rock band ever!
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05-25-2010, 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Bruce Lindfield So the Lost finale has been a big event in all the News, where it has been arranged as a simulcast across the world! | Mash. I watched the show and thought it was okay. But our guitarist at the time went so far as to host a "Mash" party when the finale aired. On the other hand, I never really cared to know "who shot J.R." TV is just a more important form of entertainment to others. | 
05-25-2010, 05:19 AM
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I often wonder about the state of current music, but its true its an older generation that is actually identifies to the album/full length CD format.  (I'm there myself)
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05-25-2010, 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by countrybass007 Luckily, all the festivals and various outdoor events seem to want live music. It helps make up for the lack of good bar gigs, and people seem to leave the 100 channels at home to come out to join in the fun. The beer and food helps too. KJung, I have no plan to ever be at the end of my music career, "till death do us part." | That's fine if you are a part timer. +1. For someone trying to be a full time player, 10 or 12 'Festival gigs' a year is a drop in the bucket. It is the other 250 or so gigs a year that have disappeared that is the issue I'm talking about. The average full time player did 300 to 340 gigs a year up until around the late 80's or early 90's (I think my all time high, based on my old gig calendars, was 348 nights of playing, and about 365 gigs due to some multiple gig days gigs in 1979). My guess now is it is closer to 150 for most good side men/women, for less pay per gig in inflation adjusted dollars than 30 years ago.
To bring the above comment back OT, most of those old coots buying Exile on Main Street are not heading out to clubs any more!
IMO and IME!
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