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11-10-2010, 12:40 PM
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A Night in Monte Carlo... live with orchestra and Roy Hargrove.
Pretty killer... kind of freshens up the Marcus thing to my ear. It is only available as an import at the moment, but should be at Amazon as a reasonably priced non-import within the month.
Highly recommended... a bit more compressed tone than on his other live CD's, some fretless playing... very nice!
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Here is a clip of the first cut I found on Youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YMYxgrdSxE
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11-10-2010, 01:22 PM
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11-10-2010, 01:57 PM
| | | | Note: Mostly Marcus on fretless... very different CD... very nice! Almost reminds me a bit of the old Grusin orchestral jazz discs. Nice! |
11-10-2010, 02:01 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Michigan, USA | | | People often forget how dimensional Marcus is. His solo stuff is only a small portion of what he is capable of playing. He is an outstanding musician and a hell of a guy who knows his stuff.
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11-10-2010, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by KJung  Note: Mostly Marcus on fretless... very different CD... very nice! Almost reminds me a bit of the old Grusin orchestral jazz discs. Nice! | His Fretless playing would instrest me more...
You know what going down with him otherwise.
Cool... 
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11-10-2010, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by basswave His Fretless playing would instrest me more...
You know what going down with him otherwise.
Cool... | I agree... not much more the hear with his amazing slapping, etc. if you have the other CD's. This is quite different. That clip I posted is an outlier on the CD actually (sounds great also though!). |
11-10-2010, 04:22 PM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Manhattan | | | It must be fun to jam in D super locrian with a full orchestra.
I liked it, but it was about 4 minutes too long -- for me. Long solos over one chord get boring fast -- to me. |
11-10-2010, 04:28 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: San Diego, CA | | | While I too want to check this out, I find Marcus' solo work a bit self indulgent. Now, his work with Miles... HOO BOY - that changed me as a player.. !
No matter - I'll give it a listen and buy it if it works for me!
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11-10-2010, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by KJung A Night in Monte Carlo... live with orchestra and Roy Hargrove.
Pretty killer... kind of freshens up the Marcus thing to my ear. It is only available as an import at the moment, but should be at Amazon as a reasonably priced non-import within the month.
Highly recommended... a bit more compressed tone than on his other live CD's, some fretless playing... very nice!
FYI!
Here is a clip of the first cut I found on Youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YMYxgrdSxE | I was hoping for a change of pace from Marcus when I clicked on that link and the subsequent videos but I heard what I always hear from Marcus: playing that doesn't serve the music. He tries to take pop and slap and fit it in every song and it just doesn't groove and is distracting from the rest of the music.
Take this cut for instance.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZcDwvF37eI
It starts out with a lot of promise. Using an orchestra on the classic Miles tune is a cool change of pace but then Marcus comes in and it goes down from there. His playing doesn't fit. I wish he would just hang back and swing like Genus or Deidda.
Of course this is all IMO and I know some cats dig it. But for me, it just reinforces why I can't get into Marcus' playing. |
11-10-2010, 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by BigOldHarry While I too want to check this out, I find Marcus' solo work a bit self indulgent. Now, his work with Miles... HOO BOY - that changed me as a player.. !
No matter - I'll give it a listen and buy it if it works for me! |
For me, Miles stopped being relevant after Bitches Brew. You wanna hear bass playing, -- Nefertiti baby!
I've always felt Marcus is a bit of a one trick pony, but he's really, really, good at that trick. (Even though he should pay royalties to Louis Johnson with every song he plays). |
11-10-2010, 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by plangentmusic (Even though he should pay royalties to Louis Johnson with every song he plays). | Why? I don't hear Louis Johnson in Marcus playing. |
11-10-2010, 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Bernie Connors I was hoping for a change of pace from Marcus when I clicked on that link and the subsequent videos but I heard what I always hear from Marcus: playing that doesn't serve the music. He tries to take pop and slap and fit it in every song and it just doesn't groove and is distracting from the rest of the music.
Take this cut for instance.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZcDwvF37eI
It starts out with a lot of promise. Using an orchestra on the classic Miles tune is a cool change of pace but then Marcus comes in and it goes down from there. His playing doesn't fit. I wish he would just hang back and swing like Genus or Deidda.
Of course this is all IMO and I know some cats dig it. But for me, it just reinforces why I can't get into Marcus' playing. | Yeah OK, I agree with you. I like the concept in general but these two tracks aren't terribly interesting. Parts of it do feel forced. It's him doing his normal thing with an orchestra as opposed to doing something a little different to suit a new setting. However, you can't expect a player to reinvent themselves constantly. It's pretty cool anyhow.
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11-10-2010, 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by BigOldHarry While I too want to check this out, I find Marcus' solo work a bit self indulgent. Now, his work with Miles... HOO BOY - that changed me as a player.. !
No matter - I'll give it a listen and buy it if it works for me! | Agreed. I REALLY want to enjoy his music but it always just a handful of songs on his CDs that I actually end up liking. I'm listening to the clips on Amazon and finding myself liking the sections with just the orchestra moreso than those with Marcus playing! The weirdest part about it all is that Marcus' playing style is right up my alley.
Anyone know if there's a place to take a listen to the entire tracks? Quote:
Originally Posted by Bernie Connors I was hoping for a change of pace from Marcus when I clicked on that link and the subsequent videos but I heard what I always hear from Marcus: playing that doesn't serve the music. He tries to take pop and slap and fit it in every song and it just doesn't groove and is distracting from the rest of the music.
Take this cut for instance.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZcDwvF37eI
It starts out with a lot of promise. Using an orchestra on the classic Miles tune is a cool change of pace but then Marcus comes in and it goes down from there. His playing doesn't fit. I wish he would just hang back and swing like Genus or Deidda.
Of course this is all IMO and I know some cats dig it. But for me, it just reinforces why I can't get into Marcus' playing. | I couldn't have said ti better if I was paid to.
Going a little off topic here's a rendition of So What that you might not expect but sounds fantastic, especially when it gets into the solos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSCObIXDCJc
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11-10-2010, 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by krovx People often forget how dimensional Marcus is. His solo stuff is only a small portion of what he is capable of playing. He is an outstanding musician and a hell of a guy who knows his stuff. | I think most people who know who he is, know what he's capable of. But, what does capability matter if your not using it? No body is accusing him of being incapable just that he's really overusing a particular style of playing and that it's getting tired.
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11-10-2010, 11:50 PM
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11-11-2010, 03:22 AM
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Originally Posted by plangentmusic I've always felt Marcus is a bit of a one trick pony, but he's really, really, good at that trick. (Even though he should pay royalties to Louis Johnson with every song he plays). | If there were a such thing a royalties for the style that both Louis and Marcus and countless others use, what about Larry Graham???
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11-11-2010, 03:37 AM
| | | | I actually dig this CD quite a bit, but only because it is a bit different for Marcus (all the fretless tracks versus the classic Marcus J slap tone). I too have tired of that quite a bit.
It is what it is though, and if you don't dig Marcus, well, then you don't dig Marcus! |
11-11-2010, 03:46 AM
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11-11-2010, 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by vibhas_2310 WHY THE BLOODY HELL DOESN'T MARCUS MILLER PLAY FRETLESS MORE OFTEN ?? | They should reissue the Urszula Dudziak album 'Future Talk' someday, Marcus kills on fretless and he was about 19 when it was recorded.
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11-11-2010, 04:19 AM
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