Ohhhh how I hate to admit this...

[Matt Till]

I'm going to go against the grain here and say there is something wrong with liking Creed. As a musician, I do believe this. Though they are playing their own instruments, it's all souless, I think the first disc is borderline OK, but past that... I mean, it's so robotic. I do like the drummer, he has nice solid tone. But the music is just... it's almost like it's not even there, it's so bland/overdone. And I can't believe a damn word Scott Stapp says for some reason.

[nataku]

i dont get most of the creed bashers out there, its just a bandwagon that everyone jumped on. i have the 2 famous albums (not sure if there are others) and i did and still do like them, though i dont listen to them any more. so much good sh*t nowadays to listen to...

[Mitchell Royce]

Up until this thread I have always wondered why Creed sold so many albums yet I knew of no one who admitted to owing one.

I agree with Matt Till on this, their music sounds extremly bland polished. It was catchy without really sticking in your head, nothing really interesting was happening. I've found the lyrics way to melo-dramatic as well.

[Joe Nerve]

Originally Posted by Mitchell Royce

Up until this thread I have always wondered why Creed sold so many albums yet I knew of no one who admitted to owing one.

I agree with Matt Till on this, their music sounds extremly bland polished. It was catchy without really sticking in your head, nothing really interesting was happening. I've found the lyrics way to melo-dramatic as well.

1. I'm curious if you guys ever REALLY listened to them and gave them a chance, or if you just took the nauseating stuff you saw on the videos and immediately wrote them off - like I originally did.

2. I'm curious what YOUR idea NOT bland, exciting, heartfelt rock and roll in this genre is? "What If" has nothing to stick in your head? It's bland? Polished? Sorry, I'm missing something here.

[KPJ]

"What If" rocks! I forgot about that song! I always liked "Torn". Nice slow groove.

I use a lot of suspended chords and the like in my songs, so I dug a lot of what Tremonti did. Their music just started sounding too same to me and too derivative. They didn't grow enough IMO. Taken individually, a lot of the songs are fine, but in the scope of their entire catalog, too formulaic. STP got like that for me also. They seemed to rely on the same song structures too much. I worked with a song writer like that for a while. He was a good writer, but every song ended up having the same form, too many major chords, always going to the IV on the bridge, etc.

Just my opinion. I can't slag anyone for liking one band, I can't pass judgement, I'm sure there are plenty out there who would gag over the bands I like a lot!

[mike_v_s]

Originally Posted by Joe Nerve

1. I'm curious if you guys ever REALLY listened to them and gave them a chance, or if you just took the nauseating stuff you saw on the videos and immediately wrote them off - like I originally did.

I don't like them. I don't really think badly of anyone that does. That stated, I'll answer your question: No, I did not base my opinion on nauseating videos. I have never seen a Creed video in my life. I heard a number of songs. One was OK, the rest were not my thing. End of Creed curiosity. As far as REALLY listenening to them....depends on what you mean. I did not borrow a CD. I don't usually go out of my way to find more music from a band I was unimpressed with. I gave the songs at my disposal a good listen and voted with my wallet. In case anyone's curious, "What if" is the song that I can stand.

Mike

[spectorbass83]

Originally Posted by Joe Nerve

...but I'm really starting to get into Creed. Nuff said.

I was when I first started to play bass. They were one of my favorite bands. "My Own Prison" was a great CD, "Human Clay" also good and "Weathered" was pretty impressive. Come to think of it all of their CD's were good. I guess I always have been a closet Creed fan LOL but who cares. If it sounds good then I like it. Also, Marshall had some great basslines. The bassline to "Torn" is sweet. Also, Tremonti is very talented and I love the way he plays. I am not into Creed that much anymore, but i can admit that I like a band, despite what everyone else may say about them. Opinions are like assholes - everyone's got 'em.

PS - Alter Bridge is sounds pretty good, the new singer has really good range. I wanna pick up their CD.

[Mitchell Royce]

Originally Posted by Joe Nerve

1. I'm curious if you guys ever REALLY listened to them and gave them a chance, or if you just took the nauseating stuff you saw on the videos and immediately wrote them off - like I originally did.

2. I'm curious what YOUR idea NOT bland, exciting, heartfelt rock and roll in this genre is? "What If" has nothing to stick in your head? It's bland? Polished? Sorry, I'm missing something here.

For the one year I drove to school my car didn't have a CD player so I caught pretty much all of their radio singles at the time. It was the "modern rock" station and basically I could listen to them, even like the melody and then forget hearing it entirely once the next song came on. This is what I mean by bland, they just didn't do anything in their music that struck me, it seemed to just blend in with the rest of what was played(3 doors down, Tantric etc.).
Of course it comes down to particular tastes. To be honest, I don't remember how "What If" goes. I don't quite know what genre they fall under but I listened to the "modern rock" station because it was easy-to-digest, semi-catchy music that I could listen to without getting annoyed. Which is, I guess, is my problem with their music.

[Matt Till]

Originally Posted by Joe Nerve

1. I'm curious if you guys ever REALLY listened to them and gave them a chance, or if you just took the nauseating stuff you saw on the videos and immediately wrote them off - like I originally did.

2. I'm curious what YOUR idea NOT bland, exciting, heartfelt rock and roll in this genre is? "What If" has nothing to stick in your head? It's bland? Polished? Sorry, I'm missing something here.

It's going to be hard for me to explain this... I like music that does something to me. When you walk into an art gallery, your drawn to the art you really like, of course. But then there is the art you really hate, I don't mind the art I really hate exsisting. Because I sit there for a while, and I stare at it trying to figure out "Why is this here?"

Creed is neither. Creed is one of those "pieces of art" that I'd spend a minute on, and feel nothing for and move on. They are like Norman Rockwell to me, very popular, very polished, very well done, represent what they want to represent very well, but very hollow. I hate art I feel nothing for more than I hate art that I hate. (Just go with it... )

I'll drop the art thing, I have listened to a whole album, I forget which one. There were too many "make me puke" ones, that when they "rocked out" I "threw up"... " "

What makes heartfelt rock? I don't know, it's not something I've taken apart. I think one main thing is a believable singer. Rock and Roll is host to some of the most sorry excuse for poetry that has ever exsisted. Most of it is about Rocking, Wanting to Rock, Rocking you Until you Drop, SexDrugsRockNRollblahblahblah... but you need a singer who delievers it with an urgency...

Creed dude acts like he's reading Shakespeare... Lemmy acts like "If you do not accept my lyrics, I will stab you with this knife! Do... do you see this knife? In my hand? Yeah, it's going to be in your stomach unless you accept the fact that the only card you'll need is the ace of spades... the ace of spades."

Wow, I'm ranty today.