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Old 10-25-2004, 06:10 PM
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Ozzy , never was a fan of him . Bought the solo records only for Rhoads and Daisley. Dio always had him beat at sabbath.
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Well, when I met Zakk Wylde after the Ozzy show here last year, he said that he was working on the album with him and wouldn't let them put all of those ****ty songs into his albums anymore.

Oh, bls kicks! (where you guys got your old sp chars...oh, and DONT BRING THEM BACK, PLEASE!)
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Back in the day, I used to bring Ozzy to my Satanic Rituals Youth Group. Whenever I did, the kids would cower and cry, frightened by what may be unleased upon them if I were to place the tape in the boombox and hit play. More than once one of the kid's parents had to come pick him up because he was crying so much, we got our crayons taken away for a week, NO PENTAGRAMS!

Nowadays, you bring Ozzy to a meeting and you get Warlock Wedgied, which, in case you don't know, hurts like a mother.
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Back in the day, I used to bring Ozzy to my Satanic Rituals Youth Group. Whenever I did, the kids would cower and cry, frightened by what may be unleased upon them if I were to place the tape in the boombox and hit play. More than once one of the kid's parents had to come pick him up because he was crying so much, we got our crayons taken away for a week, NO PENTAGRAMS!

Nowadays, you bring Ozzy to a meeting and you get Warlock Wedgied, which, in case you don't know, hurts like a mother.

LOL , made my night
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Sadly, the second I saw this thread, I instantly thought of that duet with Lita Ford.
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Sadly, the second I saw this thread, I instantly thought of that duet with Lita Ford.
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Okay, Ozzy is now a clown and maybe re-recording the Blizzard of OZZ and Diary of a Madman was a bad idea.

But you've got to admit that even if the Blizzard is a brillant album, the recording is really bad ! I don't know who was the producer or the main engineer of that album, but they must have been stoned, drunk and using primitive equipment.

IMHO Tribute was such a classic because the recording of those songs (mainly from the Blizzard) was quite good. Diary is not badly recorded.

I don't see why many of you like Bob Daisley that much. IMO he was doing the job period.
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But you've got to admit that even if the Blizzard is a brillant album, the recording is really bad ! I don't know who was the producer or the main engineer of that album, but they must have been stoned, drunk and using primitive equipment.

I don't see why many of you like Bob Daisley that much. IMO he was doing the job period.
I've always thought Rhoads' tone was embarrassingly bad.

I think the mark of a good bass player is to "do the job" so it melds completly with the song, but if that bass line is not there, the song kind of falls apart without it.
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The tragedy of Ozzy's first two...

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I was going to argue at first, but after looking over my Diary liner notes it does credit Sarzo and Aldrige. Some confliction reports going on here; gotta do some research. . . . .
This is a great thread! I was 15 or 16 when “Blizzard” broke. I had been playing bass for a year and was very influenced by Ozzy’s first two solo records.

Here’s what happened (to the best of my recollection);

1. The original band was put together in USA with plans of recording in UK
2. Red tape with UK work permits meant that only one person could get a British work visa. Hence, Randy Rhodes went and the rest of the band (i.e. Dana Strum on bass) was SOL.
3. An expedited search was conducted to find a new bassist and drummer. Bob Daisley was first on board. Lee Kerslake was an 11th hour addition as Ozzy (and management) wanted a real band: not a studio drummer.
4. The band: Ozzy/Daisley/Kerslake/Rhodes and Don Airey on keyboards (now with Deep Purple) recorded the first Ozzy albums. “Blizzard of Oz” and “Diary of A Mad Man” for sequential release
5. After the release of “Blizzard” but before the tour started. Ozzy fired Lee Kerslake because he was never happy with his drumming. He fired Bob Dailey at the same time for reasons unknown
6. The “Blizzard” tour with Rudy Sarzo on bass Tommy Aldridge on drums
7. Diary of Madman released crediting Rudy Sarzo and Tommy Aldridge even though they did not play on the album.

To further complicate things Ozzy’s original label, JET, did not pay Ozzy the royalties on these albums. I don’t know how this ended up (but I have some theories).

As part of a standard recording contract, artists are forbidden from re-recording their material on a different label for a specific number of years. The rationale is, after significant time has passed, the artist might have “creative re-interpretation” of earlier works.

MY THEORY
1. Ozzy, for the love of money and/or perhaps wanting revenge against JET records (whom I think is run by his father-in-law who was also Black Sabbath’s manager). Tries to obtain the rights to the original recordings. JET (or whomever owns these rights now) refuses.

2. Ozzy is “creatively inspired” to “artistically reinterpret” his first two solo records by altering the master tape copy he had in his possession (but not the legal rights to use). The fact that he has receives the royalties on this is inconsequential as it’s all about art, not money, right ?!

3. JET, or whomever ones the rights to the original recordings, threatens to sue Ozzy over his use of those recording which he doesn’t have the rights to. (Basically bootlegging himself… life was simpler without lawyers…) Ozzy pleasantly reminds JET that he either hasn’t received the royalties of these recordings (maybe he has by now, but he wouldn’t be happy about at least a decade of delays and legal wrangling).

4. More legal wrangling ensues

It amazes me how these things drag out over decades. For example, the Chambers Brothers hit “Time has come today” still gets radio play and is used in a recent automobile TV commercial. The artist (Lester Chambers) is in litigation to get royalties as he has not received a dime from that song. Sadly the seven year delay between Boston’s second and third album was over legal wrangling as well. (And the band did not receive any royalties until this was resolved.)

My point here is that I prefer the original Ozzy recordings over the remasters but IMHO, its about business not music.
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Rudi Sarzo played bass on Diary of a Madman (and Tommy Aldrige was the drummer).
No, no, no.... Bob Daisley played bass on DOAM. Sarzo was hired for the tour.

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2.5 years of research later

Who brought this back to life?! Anyway, definitely was Daisley and Kerslake on the Diary album. Sarzo and Aldridge played on the subsequent tour.
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I wish Randy was still alive to re-record his stuff. I hate his tone. That's actually the only thing I didn't like about Rhodes, that stupid tone he always played with. Those riffs could have been blisteringly heavy and much more enjoyable with the right tone going on.
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That sucks, I can't believe Mike Bordin messed up the drumlines, he's one of my favourite drummers.
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