Pastorius twins=funky

Norwegianwood · #1 02-24-2005, 07:43 AM

I'm sure many of you have heard it, but my guess is that a lot of you haven't. If you are interested, Jaco Pastorius twins Felix and Julius Pastorius have a band they call "Way of the Groove."
I really like the energy they put into this tune:

http://www.ajlucas.com/sounds/MercyMercy.mp3
http://www.ajlucas.com/sounds/MercyMercy2.mp3

DWBass · #2 02-24-2005, 07:51 AM

Sounds as if they were just jamming on it as opposed to a tune they've worked on to the point of tightness! Maybe it's just me but I'm always expecting more out of these legacies. Sounds good though.

Mike Flynn · #3 02-24-2005, 08:19 AM

I hate to say it - as these guys shouldn't be expected to better their father's standards - but that is really dissapointing - I don't think they'd necessarily want this to be judged as a proper recording - it definitely sounds like a loose jam to my ears. Felix has got a deep pocket though - and I'd like to hear a better recording by them before I made any more judgements on thier abilities.

M

Redhotbassist · #4 02-24-2005, 12:01 PM

Its not bad, there pretty good.

Nick Bassman · #5 02-24-2005, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by urb_munki

I hate to say it - as these guys shouldn't be expected to better their father's standards - but that is really dissapointing - I don't think they'd necessarily want this to be judged as a proper recording - it definitely sounds like a loose jam to my ears. Felix has got a deep pocket though - and I'd like to hear a better recording by them before I made any more judgements on thier abilities.

M

+1

So far what I've heard hasn't really done anything for me. Maybe there is more to come.

KenToby · #6 02-24-2005, 01:48 PM

Sounds like they're about 1 1/2 cases into a party. Talk about loose.

KT

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norwegianwood

I'm sure many of you have heard it, but my guess is that a lot of you haven't. If you are interested, Jaco Pastorius twins Felix and Julius Pastorius have a band they call "Way of the Groove."
I really like the energy they put into this tune:

http://www.ajlucas.com/sounds/MercyMercy.mp3
http://www.ajlucas.com/sounds/MercyMercy2.mp3

Figjam · #7 02-24-2005, 01:54 PM

Meh, not impressed.

Red Wonder · #8 02-24-2005, 06:15 PM

I betcha Geddy's kid plays better than Jaco's kids...

Norwegianwood · #9 02-24-2005, 06:30 PM

Each to his own, I guess....
Felix sure is one helluva bassist. He is indeed very inspired by his father, but still not a bad rippoff, imho. He got's lot of energy in his playing - wich I like. I heard the recordings he did with John Coffin (Hope I got the name right, I may mix it up.) at a very young age. Good playing.
Julius, however, seems more like your average sloppy drummer...

As far as this recording goes - what makes you think it's more than a loose jam?

Another old recording of Felix playing bass:
http://www.jacop.net/sounds/BarbaryCoast%5B1%5D.mp3

DWBass · #10 02-24-2005, 07:15 PM

Now that was a much better recording and more enjoyable. That first recording you posted was definitely a jam situation. Not sure if everyone knew the song because it seemed some didn't know when and where to go. It was very loose. Not tight and worked out like this one. I don't think anyone is saying the kids can't play but more like they get a lot of attention due to the family name but are in reality, average to slightly above average musicians. I'd love to see and hear them live though. Just my opinion.

JimK · #11 02-25-2005, 04:20 AM

Meanwhile-
How 'bout Jaco's newphew, David?
IMO, he does a great job on that Jaco Big Band Revisted disc.

NJL · #12 02-25-2005, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by JimK

Meanwhile-
How 'bout Jaco's newphew, David?
IMO, he does a great job on that Jaco Big Band Revisted disc.

+juan

jerry · #13 02-26-2005, 03:03 PM

I would cut the kids a little slack! I'm pretty sure that's why Felix hasn't released anything yet.....you just know people will be gunning for him. Matthew Garrison had to ease into the scene too

narud · #14 02-26-2005, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jerry

I would cut the kids a little slack! I'm pretty sure that's why Felix hasn't released anything yet.....you just know people will be gunning for him. Matthew Garrison had to ease into the scene too

matthew had the chops to back it up though

chimp · #15 02-27-2005, 12:58 AM

I think you people are being tought on them. Its problem not easy for them living in the shadow of thier dad. I dont think Felix is that bad of a bassist hes not Jaco, but he can play.

narud · #16 02-27-2005, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by chimp

I think you people are being tought on them. Its problem not easy for them living in the shadow of thier dad. I dont think Felix is that bad of a bassist hes not Jaco, but he can play.

he may not be that bad of a bassist, but i know im going to be tough on him if hes landing gigs and getting free fodera's based on his name alone rather than his playing. this board is probably full of guys that are "not that bad of a bassist" and if thats all it takes.....

dont get me wrong though, id take advantage of the same opportunities if they were in front of me

chimp · #17 02-27-2005, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by narud

he may not be that bad of a bassist, but i know im going to be tough on him if hes landing gigs and getting free fodera's based on his name alone rather than his playing. this board is probably full of guys that are "not that bad of a bassist" and if thats all it takes.....

dont get me wrong though, id take advantage of the same opportunities if they were in front of me

Ahh yes i see where you are coming from with that and i agree on that. Playing wise he might not be up there with the best but hes not at the bottom with either.

DWBass · #18 02-27-2005, 08:02 AM

I personally think they should move away from playing any Jaco, Weather Report and related music and just do their own thing! Make their own way in musicdom! His 'slapped' version of Teen Town.......................sigh!

JamesM · #19 03-01-2005, 02:45 AM

I saw Felix do a solo on a Drummer's Collective DVD, it was pretty good. But he came on after Victor wooten did a mean solo.

ptuckerbass · #20 03-01-2005, 04:16 AM

Dave Pastorious is a great player. Dave and I used to live in Melbourne, Fl and I had the pleasure of jamming with him on several occassions.
He's loaded with natural talent and can play just about anything in any style. Even though he could play the pants off me, he was always very complimentary and humble.