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I am a Phil Collins fan, and I'm saddened by his decision to call it a day.

Collins' actual Gretsch drumkit. Without its owner ready to play it.

Now for those who don't know, a couple of years ago Collins suffered damaged vertibrae in his upper back which left him unable to play drums, let alone write his own name or even use a towel after taking a shower.

However his reason for calling it a day lies more in his domestic situation.
BREAKING NEWS - A Message From Phil... | Phil Collins

I saw Genesis in 2007 during their "turn it on again" tour and Phil was top notch, very good voice, thunderous and inspired behind the kit, this was a true performer in action and I was glad to have seen him.

And so I figured it time to have a look at his long and destinguished carreer. Note that my picks here aren't the usual songs of his, it's his more obscure work.

I'll start with what probably was the first classic Genesis song, "The Musical box"
YouTube - Genesis - The Musical Box , Belgian TV - Six Hours Live
That song and the album it's from "Nursery Cryme" was the first which had Collins as a member of that band and right from the get-go he provided a very recognisable style of drumming and singing to the band. Note also that his voice and Peter Gabriel's sound very similar. Iron Maiden Bass player and main songsmith said that "Nursery Cryme" was one of the pivotal albums that inspired him to be a musician and this song shows where Iron maiden got a lot of their stuff from.

When Peter Gabriel left the band, Phill stepped up to the mike and with his average Joe looks and clownesque performance quickly established himself as a crowd favorite. He certainly made Gabriel songs like "I know what I like" his own, if only because of how nimble he was with a tambourine.
YouTube - Genesis - I Know What I Like (In Your Wardrobe)

Now when his former bandmate Peter Gabriel asked Collins to play on his third solo album we got to hear what would become a Phil Collins trademark sound for the very first time: gated drums.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAzUh_H7yV0

And those gated drums also played a very prominent role on a song we associate with one of the most notable Daria episodes ever.
YouTube - FRIDA (ABBA) - 'I Know There's Something Going On" [promo]

Phil's carreer aside from being a recording artist in his own right was one of producer and he was asked by some big time artists to help out. I already named the gated drums as a Phil Collins trademark but every bit as recognisable was his use of a Yamaha Drum machine (On songs like "Duchess", "Mama" and of course "In the air tonight") And Led Zeppelin frontman Robert Plant liked that sound and thus enlisted Phil to help him out on what was his biggest solo hit.
YouTube - Robert Plant - Big Log

Howard Jones is a classically trained pianist and his song "No one is to blame" was a very spartain affair and so to see what a different pair of hands could do with that song he asked Phil to do a remix. And a remix he certainly got, Phil's trademark drumming and him adding background vocals really filted the song up.
YouTube - Howard Jones - No one is to blame

Well this concludes my small tribute to one stellar musician who according to his Genesis bandmates never looked like a rock star and frankly still doesn't.
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Old 04-10-2011, 01:37 PM
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I liked his work with Brand X as well.
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Phil's drumming on Brian Eno's Before & After Science and Another Green World is some of his best work imho.
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While not Phil's worst drumming, this definitely is one of the worst sounding live recordings that Phil was a PART of...

YouTube - Led Zeppelin Live Aid 1985 1 Rock n Roll Stereo

Here is one of my favorite Phil moments of all time.. I esp. love his bitchin' shirt!

YouTube - Phil Collins - Against All Odds - Live Aid 1985 - London, England
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While not Phil's worst drumming, this definitely is one of the worst sounding live recordings that Phil was a PART of...
Yeah Led Zep was a train wreck at Live aid.

But him playing side by side with Jeff Porcaro backing Clapton however was magical.
YouTube - Eric Clapton - Layla (Live Aid 1985)

And here's what I consider to be the best live version of "Turn it on again" with both his solo band and Genesis backing him. Love how Leland Sklar's bass makes this song so much more alive than the droning Moog Taurus basslines it usually has.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLVbogL3NLw
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Phil with Robert Fripp:
YouTube - Robert Fripp - Exposure - 04 - Disengage - 1979
Peter Hammill on vocals and Tony Levin on bass.

Another from the same album, Daryl Hall on vocals:
YouTube - Robert Fripp - North Star

Phil played on John Martyn's great "Grace And Danger" album in 1980:
YouTube - John Martyn with Phil Collins Sweet Little Mystery studio 1980

Here he is moonlightning with Jethro Tull:
YouTube - Jethro Tull And Phil Collins - Pussy Willow

This is one of my favs he did with Plant:
YouTube - Robert Plant - Burning Down One Side (Live 1983)
Barrie Barlow (ex- Jethro Tull) miming Phil's part.
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Phil with Robert Fripp:
YouTube - Robert Fripp - Exposure - 04 - Disengage - 1979
Peter Hammill on vocals and Tony Levin on bass.

Another from the same album, Daryl Hall on vocals:
YouTube - Robert Fripp - North Star
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I miss this album. I forgot how much North Star sounds like Matte Kudesar (sp?)
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I remember back my days as a young musical snob listening to Zappa, King Crimson, Eno.... and hearing this...

YouTube - Robert Fripp "Breathless"

Imagine a room full of stoners getting floored by this drum performance - we had to check the album to see who the drummer was - Bruford? Wackerman?..... WHA???........ Phil Collins????????
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I miss this album. I forgot how much North Star sounds like Matte Kudesar (sp?)
That's "Matte Kudasai".

And how much "Matte Kudasai" sounds like Fleetwood Mac's "Albatross"
YouTube - FLEETWOOD MAC - Albatross (1970 UK TV Performance) ~ HIGH QUALITY HQ ~
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Terrible quality vid, but some fantastic drumming from Phil, especially the 9/8 part of the tune after the intro. I remember seeing this when it was first broadcast.

YouTube - Brand X Old Grey Whistle Test And So To F 1979

Skip to 2:00 into the vid to get to the music.
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You mean Phil Collins the Disney singer played drums?
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You mean Phil Collins the Disney singer played drums?
I mean Phil Collins who sang on the excellent prog rock album "A trick of the tail."

And yeah, he also played drums on his Tarzan music. It earned him an Oscar.
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I remember back my days as a young musical snob listening to Zappa, King Crimson, Eno.... and hearing this...

YouTube - Robert Fripp "Breathless"

Imagine a room full of stoners getting floored by this drum performance - we had to check the album to see who the drummer was - Bruford? Wackerman?..... WHA???........ Phil Collins????????

Actually, that's Narada Michael Walden playing drums on "Breathless". (He also pays on "I May Not Have Had Enough Of Me But I've Had Enough Of You" and "NY3".)

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I mean Phil Collins who sang on the excellent prog rock album "A trick of the tail."

And yeah, he also played drums on his Tarzan music. It earned him an Oscar.
It's a joke, thats what my kids remember him for. For me he left my music world when he stopped playing with Brand X. For me he stopped making music a long time ago.
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It's a joke, thats what my kids remember him for. For me he left my music world when he stopped playing with Brand X. For me he stopped making music a long time ago.
So will your children remember Ringo Starr for doing "2000 Motels" or Paul McCartney for doing "we all stand together" for the Rupert the bear sound track?

If doing a soundtrack for an animated movie is so discrediting to you then that automatically makes Ringo and Macca nothing but jokes too, isn't that right?
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