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01-05-2006, 12:01 AM
|  | TalkBass' resident Bongo + Cowbell player | | Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Bucaramanga, Colombia, South A | | | I really liked the tone. Overall speaking, you nailed the song, but there's a big flaw: The tempo. Why do you think that PoT should be played that fast? IMO, anyone who plays this should do it calmly, giving time to taste such a beautiful composition. Slow it down and you'll have a great version. |
01-05-2006, 12:12 AM
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Endorsing Artist: Levy's Leathers Moderator | | Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Toronto/Niagara Falls, Ontario | | | I agree. Slow it down man. PoT is the kind of song you don't just play, you feel the song, and you make love to it. You can't fly through it. Played properly, I can definately see people tearing. It really is a goregous song, and just feel it man.
And work on the last chord. haha But, we all need to work on that.
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01-05-2006, 12:23 AM
| | TalkBass' resident Bongo + Cowbell player | | Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Bucaramanga, Colombia, South A | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by Geddy_Lee And work on the last chord. haha But, we all need to work on that.
-Mark | In fact, I think that not even Jaco could nail it properly every time he tried to play it. If you listen carefully to the studio recording, you'll notice that when the time for the chord comes, everything (volume, compression, effects, whatever you like to call it) is turned up. I think that one of the keys to get this chord properly is not trying to get the hell out of your bass (big hands help, of course). |
01-05-2006, 02:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Alvaro Martín Gómez A. In fact, I think that not even Jaco could nail it properly every time he tried to play it. If you listen carefully to the studio recording, you'll notice that when the time for the chord comes, everything (volume, compression, effects, whatever you like to call it) is turned up. I think that one of the keys to get this chord properly is not trying to get the hell out of your bass (big hands help, of course). | According to Bob Bobbing (who posts over at the Jaco.com forum), even Jaco recorded the highest note of that chord seperately and mixed it in later. Think about it, have you ever seen or heard Jaco play that last chord live? Every live version of that song I've heard, he leaves that chord out and plays some dstorted madness, or goes into some Onkonkole Y Trompa, or continues with a medley.
I'm not putting down Jaco of course. He was writing music so good that even he couldn't play it, that's not a bad thing.
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01-05-2006, 03:03 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeyFingers Think about it, have you ever seen or heard Jaco play that last chord live? | He plays it on Modern Electric Bass...Explains it, too. Quote: |
Originally Posted by MikeyFingers He was writing music so good that even he couldn't play it, that's not a bad thing. | True dat...It's a sad thing. |
01-05-2006, 03:13 AM
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Originally Posted by darkblack99 He plays it on Modern Electric Bass...Explains it, too. | Yea he plays it on MEB, but not that good if I remember correctly. He had trouble with the 2/6 A-string harmonic too which even I can do pretty easily. But as he said himself on the DVD, he was outta shape then.
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01-05-2006, 03:41 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Calgary, AB | | The chord content is all there, but he changes the phrasing from the studio version, omitting the first two root E's...Sonically, it makes a case for the multitracking theory, getting a better result from a sum of tracks through isolation.
And he does miss the D# flageolet tone on the first pass when Jerry Jemmott asks him about harmonics, true. He nails it later, when specifically asked about the song itself. 'Outta shape, man!'  |
01-05-2006, 04:27 AM
| | | thank you all for your posts
all of you are right tempo is too fast i think that's because i haven't listened to the original version for a long time only the live versions which he plays it very fast
and for the last chord actually i can do it like the original but not all the time (especially 5:30 in the morning  ) and he uses a bit of effects there i managed to have the same sound with a bit of compression and delay or chorus
and as you can see i have small hands |
01-05-2006, 04:59 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Calgary, AB | | | Yeah, on 8:30 he just 'blurs' through the intro on his way elsewhere. Throws a clam at the start of it too, IIRC.
You, you're doing good...all the notes are there...Now, make it breathe. |
01-05-2006, 05:11 AM
| | | thanks i'll do so |
01-05-2006, 06:32 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Victoria, Australia | | Well done man! I think you did a very good job  . I wish you got a better cam angle so I could see what the other hand was doing. O well can't please every one ha ha. Keep up!
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01-05-2006, 08:57 AM
| | | thanks man
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