Quincy Jones - Ai No Corrida

**bassybill** · #1 08-25-2010, 02:30 PM

I'm not posting this for gear comments or analysis of tone or what have you - just a great bass line that I thought I'd share, or remind you of. What a classic.

http://www.billygreen.pwp.blueyonder...cy%20Jones.mp3

I have to be honest and admit I have no idea who the bassist was on this. Anyone?

gttim · #2 08-25-2010, 02:35 PM

I'll have to check the cd when I get home. I love this tune.

**bassybill** · #3 08-25-2010, 02:38 PM

I have the CD but I'm too lazy to go and find it after I ripped my entire collection on to my PC about 3 years ago! lol

JimK · #4 08-25-2010, 03:01 PM

Louis Johnson is on bass.

IIRC, John Robinson (Rufus) was on drums & Steve Lukather (Toto) was on guitar.

These guys + Hawk Wolinski (Rufus) did a lot of Quincy Jones stuff in that time frame. Check out more Louis Johnson on Michael Jackson's Off The Wall album.

**bassybill** · #5 08-26-2010, 02:43 AM

Thanks Jim, I didn't know it was Louis. I'm already a fan - I really like the Off The Wall album and also the Brothers Johnson record Light Up The Night.

Hoover · #6 08-26-2010, 09:48 AM

I loved that tune way back when I was in college!

Jazzomaniac · #7 08-26-2010, 11:10 AM

A classic tune from a classic album. And speaking of "Off The Wall", I find it to be much better than it's follw-up "Thriller". MJ's albums always had great bass-lines, either it was synth or "normal" bass. Another album I really like from Quincy is "Back On The Block". Too bad his professional relationship with MJ at the time had gotten so difficult that he hired an MJ wannabe for one of the tunes( I think it was "The Secret Garden).

JimK · #8 08-26-2010, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Jazzomaniac

A classic tune from a classic album. And speaking of "Off The Wall", I find it to be much better than it's follw-up "Thriller". MJ's albums always had great bass-lines, either it was synth or "normal" bass.

I also like Off The Wall better than Thriller.
Regarding the bass parts-
IMO, that's Rod Temperton's composing. I just picked up Heatwave's Hot Property cd (finally released on cd!). All those Heatwave/Temperton tunes had a hook or sub-hook happenin' with the bass-
"Boogie Nights"
"The Groove Line"
"Eye Balling"
"Razzle Dazzle"
"Ain't No Half Stepping"
"One Night Tan"
"Thermal Warfare"
"Raise A Blaze"
"Party Poops"
etc.

Another Temperton classic is "Mystery" by The Manhatten Transfer (Nathan East on bass, IIRC).

JimK · #9 08-26-2010, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Jazzomaniac

Another album I really like from Quincy is "Back On The Block". Too bad his professional relationship with MJ at the time had gotten so difficult that he hired an MJ wannabe for one of the tunes (I think it was "The Secret Garden).

...I have that & even better (IMO) is Mellow Madness (this may have been the Brothers Johnson 1st big recording...before their debut album).
Sounds...And Stuff Like That is also good.

Jazzomaniac · #10 08-26-2010, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JimK

...I have that & even better (IMO) is Mellow Madness (this may have been the Brothers Johnson 1st big recording...before their debut album).
Sounds...And Stuff Like That is also good.

True, "Mellow Madness" is also great. I also like that better than BOTB, but I emphasized more on QJ's damaged professional relationship with MJ in my last post and him not being included on that album. Thus I didn't mention "Mellow Madness". My favorite track from that album is the lovely version of "Bluesette". I bought it as a Japanese import-cd about a year ago, but I haven't listened to it in a while. Your post reminded me to start listening to it again, and I will definitely do so because it is indeed a very nice record. Thanks for the Heatwave-recommendation, I'm only vaguely familar with their music so I'm gonna check out the tunes you listed. Most of the music Rod Temperton is involved is great so I'm sure they are no exception.

JimK · #11 08-26-2010, 03:31 PM

I also picked up the Japanese Import of Mellow Madness...maybe 2 years ago?
"Bluesette" with Toots Thielemans is great...I also like "My Cherie Amour". Nice playing by Max Bennett. And there's some funky Bro-J inspired stuff, too.

Jazzomaniac · #12 08-26-2010, 03:40 PM

Have you heard the versions of "Bluesette" when Toots improvises the solo with whistling and guitar, playing the same lines simultaneously? Mindboggling stuff! I saw him live five years ago, and he is still amazing. The concert I saw featured him and a trio.

JimK · #13 08-27-2010, 05:06 AM

...I think so, cannot recall when/where. It's been a long while, though.

Vincent P · #14 08-27-2010, 05:17 AM

Thanks Bill,
Seems like a lifetime ago I was grooving to this song. Quincy is the dude.

DrayMiles · #15 08-27-2010, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Jazzomaniac

A classic tune from a classic album. And speaking of "Off The Wall", I find it to be much better than it's follw-up "Thriller". MJ's albums always had great bass-lines, either it was synth or "normal" bass. Another album I really like from Quincy is "Back On The Block". Too bad his professional relationship with MJ at the time had gotten so difficult that he hired an MJ wannabe for one of the tunes( I think it was "The Secret Garden).

Wasn't that El Debarge?

Jazzomaniac · #16 08-27-2010, 03:51 PM

Yes, it was El Debarge. A good singer by all means, but still far away from MJ's league in my opinion.

Sounbwoy · #17 08-27-2010, 11:05 PM

The "MJ Wannabee" was Al B. Sure...along with El, James Ingram and Barry White

Jazzomaniac · #18 08-28-2010, 11:31 AM

I didn't say that Barry White and James Ingram were MJ wannabes, did I ??

And it doesn't matter who sang lead vocals on "The Secret Garden", my point is that he is an MJ wannabe.
My opinion of course. Do you think that that person is a better singer than MJ?

T-MOST · #19 09-22-2010, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jazzomaniac

Yes, it was El Debarge. A good singer by all means, but still far away from MJ's league in my opinion.

How the hell does El Debarge get compared to MJ? Apples and oranges.