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06-29-2006, 01:33 AM
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06-29-2006, 03:47 AM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Marathon Man | | | No, I love Wooten. However, this thread is a slight breath of fresh air from the "I don't like Jaco" ones.
Still fairly pointless though. |
06-29-2006, 01:57 PM
|  | Supporting Member | | Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: 3rd stone from the sun | | | Wooten won me over when I saw him with Mike Stern and Dennis Chambers. He can groove and hold down the bottom like a MASTER! Of course he had a wankfest when it was time for that, but he is extremely tasteful holding the groove too.
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06-29-2006, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by baba He can groove and hold down the bottom like a MASTER! Of course he had a wankfest when it was time for that, but he is extremely tasteful holding the groove too. | + 1
For me, his grooving stuff, especially when he does Jaco covers, is where his brilliance truly shows. I'm not as enamored with his double thumbing stuff. But that is just me. |
06-29-2006, 02:12 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: akron, ohio | | | Unless u can play half as good as Wooten, I wouldn't be so quick to critisize |
06-29-2006, 02:12 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Metro St. Louis | | | Victor Wooten is a great musician, and a so so composer who has a strong commerical streak. Don't confuse his music or gimmicks with his musical ability.
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06-29-2006, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by baba Wooten won me over when I saw him with Mike Stern and Dennis Chambers. He can groove and hold down the bottom like a MASTER! | I have a boot leg of that line up.... I much prefer Caron or Goines and even Jeff Andrews. But heck yeah, Vic shined on Mike's tunes |
06-29-2006, 02:20 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: St. Louis // St. Charles, MO | | | Overrated? No. The target of ridiculous speculation regarding his 'real skills and talents' - uh, huh.
Aside from the fact that he can do amazing things with his fingers and thumbs and his live performances are nothing short of jaw-dropping, he is one classy human being who has dedicated his life to helping bass players of all walks of life learn more then just how to play bass. He teaches a very philosophical approach to life that gets applied to bass playing and then brings it full circle to show how bass playing relates to life. His bass camp and clinics are just a few examples of how much of a class act Victor Wooten is as a person and a bass player.
Hats off to Victor Wooten!
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06-29-2006, 02:22 PM
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06-29-2006, 02:22 PM
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06-29-2006, 02:24 PM
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06-29-2006, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by NJL Not my cup of tea... IMHO, he over does it, sometimes. | +1 |
06-29-2006, 02:31 PM
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06-29-2006, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Don W I like his playing in a band setting, like his stuff with the Flecktones, but his solo stuff, not so much. | Actually, I can go with that most of the time.
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06-29-2006, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by NJL This is all subjective. | heh that quote applies to 99% of all comments on all forums, but yes, I agree. |
06-29-2006, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by NJL Actually, I can go with that most of the time.
+1 | But - I do tend to agree with this comment. I LOVE what he does with the Flecktones. His solo stuff is impressive - but not my cup o tea.
And as for overrated being a subjective term - yes, with a caveat. I believe you can quantify in some circumstances whether a person's appearance of skill outweighs their ability to deliver the goods.
Overrated implies to me that he cannot live up to the hype that surrounds his name or the expectations of his job. I really fail to see what it is folks think he cannot live up to as a bass player.
As a composer... ok... again subjective and who could ever hope to be universally accepted as an author, screenwriter, composer, painter, whathaveyou - but as a bass player I believe there is more that can be evaluated then just whether or not you like what he does. There are measurables in the mix.
I think Mr. Wooten can stand in just about any situation as a bass player and hold his own in spades. Rock, pop, jazz, country, not so sure if he has classical (upright) chops, but as for the electric bass... I cannot imagine a scenario where he would be in over his head or out of his depth.
So is he an overrated bass player? Unquestionably (IMO) he is not.
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06-29-2006, 02:56 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Myrtle Beach,SC | | | Wooten is a masterful bassist.........the constant comparisons and "ratings" however have me quite weary....
This goes for any and all accomplished musicians.
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06-29-2006, 02:59 PM
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06-29-2006, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by labgnat but if that the is mmmm wank fest lovetastic was sure me lately check styrofoam keyboard is an all for this defintely | ***?
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06-29-2006, 03:04 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New York | | | his left hand is one of the best in the bizz but his right thumb gets all the attention. you cant knock him until you see him live.
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