recommend me some hardcore

[uethanian]

right so its fine time to expand my musical exposure. i get so caught up in my own stuff that i don't have a lot of time to explore and listen to new music. so metal is a genre that in general, i haven't really touched on that much.

not sure if 'hardcore' is what i'm looking for (there's so many sub-sets of metal that i can't really be sure). but it has a really precise, technical aspect to it, with a lot of double bass kicks and meter changes and all that good stuff.

one of my friends is really into bands like 'as blood runs black' and 'saosin.' i like a lot of the instrumental stuff, but the vocals kind of ruin it for me (pigsqueeling, eagle screaming, etc.). i'd like some metal thats a bit less mainstream and generic. can anyone help me out?

[projectMalamute]

Hardcore is really more a punk rock thing than a metal thing. Unless you are counting that metalcore stuff, but with scattered exceptions you don't want to have anything to do with that.

Good introduction to hardcore:

Black Flag - the first four years comp
Minor Threat - discography (everything they put out on one CD)
Bad Brains - Bad Brains
Die Kreuzen - Die Kreuzen

It's all pretty much down hill after that stuff

[atheos]

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[thetawaves]

more hard-rock...but 'These Arms Are Snakes' are a curious blend of metal and several other things delightfully unholy...their song 'Subtle Body' is one of the best basslines I've heard in a while!

[chrisisnotevil]

want precise, technical playing, lots of crazy drumming and time changes etc?

TOOL!

if you're after something even heavier, um, between the buried and me get a lot of love around these parts, but can't say i've listened to much. doubtless many other metallers will chip in with more suggestions too!

[DaveF]

Blood Brothers (Burn Piano Island, Burn!)
Dillenger Escape Plan (anything)
Refused (The shape of punk to come)
The Locust (any)
Daughters (Hell Songs)

There ya go!

[chrisisnotevil]

Originally Posted by thetawaves

more hard-rock...but 'These Arms Are Snakes' are a curious blend of metal and several other things delightfully unholy...their song 'Subtle Body' is one of the best basslines I've heard in a while!

not what first sprung to my mind, but + like, 1,000,000. these arms are snakes rule.

[thetawaves]

Originally Posted by chrisisnotevil

want precise, technical playing, lots of crazy drumming and time changes etc?

TOOL!

if you're after something even heavier, um, between the buried and me get a lot of love around these parts, but can't say i've listened to much. doubtless many other metallers will chip in with more suggestions too!

gargh, I was just about to do an edit and get Tool in...curses upon ye!

Justin Chancellor is like a hairy bottom-feeding messiah. and James Keenan brews his own wine, what more can you look for in a singer?

[richday]

D.R.I._ first 2 albums
A.O.D.
S.O.D.
C.O.C._first album
Bad Brains
Dead Kennedys
Circle Jerks

[chrisisnotevil]

Originally Posted by thetawaves

gargh, I was just about to do an edit and get Tool in...curses upon ye!

Justin Chancellor is like a hairy bottom-feeding messiah. and James Keenan brews his own wine, what more can you look for in a singer?

it's one of the fundamental prerequisites i have when auditioning vocalists.

i'll do the honourable thing and give pelican, boris (no thread of recommendations is complete without boris) and isis a mention too.

[thetawaves]

I think David Randall Blythe would be doing swan dives in his grave if he were to be uttered in the same spacial dimension as 'hardcore'...

But Lamb of God's latest offering 'Sacrament' has some pretty tasty bass going on. And if you're after some nifty drumming, you can do far worse than Monsieur Chris Adler.

[Saetia]

There are a lot of bands here that arn't hardcore, but good examples of Post-rock/ metal as well as grind and death metal. If you're looking for hardcore ProjectMalamute and rich day have great examples. Here's a huge list I prepaired alphabetically of old and new alike.

25 ta life
37 Stab Woundz
A Global Threat
A Poor Excuse
Agnostic Front
Alone In A Crowd
AMERICAN NIGHTMARE
Angel Crew
Arkangel
ATTITUDE
Avail
Back Against The Wall
BACKBREAKER
Bane
Barcadia
Battery
Billyclub Sandwich
Biohazard
Black My Heart
Blood for Blood
Blood in/ blood out
Blue Monday
BOLD
Born From Pain
Brace War
Brotherhood
Bury Your Dead
Carry Nation
Carry On
Casey Jones
Cast Aside
Cause For Alarm
CDC
Ceremony
CEREMONY
Chain of Strength
Champion
Chorus of disapproval
Colin of Arabia
Comeback Kid
Countdown
Counting the days
Crime In Stereo
Cro Mags
Crowd Detterent
Crud
Dance floor justice
Death Before Dishonor
Death Sentence
Death Star
Death Threat
Destiny Program
Die as one
Die Young
Donny Brook
DYS
Earth Crisis
Enemy Ground
Everyman for Himself
FEAR
Figure Four
First Blood
Flagmen
FLOOR PUNCH
FOLSOM
From the ruins
Full Blown Chaos
Furious Styles
Giving up the Ghost
Good Clean Fun
Gorilla Biscuits
GUNS UP!
Hatebreed
Have Heart
His Hero is Gone
Hoods
Icepick
In Blood we trust
In Remembrance
Inside Out
Instead
Integirty
Jerry Kids
JUDGE
Justice
Killing the Dream
Kisscut
Know the Score
Knuckle Dust
Life or Death
Lifetime
Limp Wrist
Madball
MDC
Mental
Miles Between
Modern life is war
Mouthpiece
Murphy's Law
Negative Approach
No for an Answer
No Innocent Victim
On the Rise
Outbreak
Outspoken
Palehorse
Pennywise
Plan of Attack
Pointing Finger
Project X
Ramallah
Recon
Represent
Rhinoceros
Right Brigade
Righteous Jams
Ringworm
Sacremento Hoods
Set it Straight
Seventh Dagger
Seventh Star
Shai Hulud
Shark Punch
Shattered Realm
Sheer Terror
Shutdown
Sick of it All,
Signs of Hope
Since the flood
Skarhead
Slapshot
Solidarity
SSD
Stick to your Guns
Stragedy X
Stretch Arm Strong
Strife
Strike Anywhere
Strong Arm
Suicidal Tendencies
Teen Idles
Ten Yard Fight
Terror
The Answer
The Banner
The Effort
The First Step
The Promise
The Red Baron
The Suicide File
Think I Care
This is Hell
Tradition
Unbroken
Undertow
Unlucky 13
Walls of Jericho
Warzone
Warzone,
Wasted life
With Honor
Wreckless
x follow your path x
xAFBx
xBISHOPx
xCHALLENGERx
xlooking forwardx
xTYRANTx
YEARS SPENT COLD
Youth Attack
Youth Brigade
Youth of Today
Zero Mentality

Definitely check some of these out though, if you want to get into hardcore. Check out the other non-hardcore suggestions as well, they are very good.

-Benny

[Lesfunk]

Dead Kennedys "In God we trust Inc."

[lucretius]

+1 for Dillinger and The Locust
Between the Buried and Me will keep you on your toes
Into the Moat
Ion Dissonance has some pretty heavy and intricate breakdowns

[heath_r_91]

Botch- An Anthology of Dead Ends and We Are The Romans
Cave In- Beyond Hypothermia
Coalesce- all of it
Comadre- Burn Your Bones
Converge- Jane Doe
End Of A Year- Disappear Here
Envy- all of their stuff.
The Esoteric- all of their stuff
Every Time I Die- Last Night In Town
Fear Before The March Of Flames- Art Damage and How Odd People Shake
Hot Cross- Cryonics and Fair Trades & Farewells
The Locust- all of it
Look What I Did- My First Time
Poison The Well- The Opposite of December and Tear From The Red
Shai Hulud- Hearts Once Nourished With Hope & Compassion and That Within Blood Ill-Tempered
Shotmaker- all of it
This Is Hell- Sundowning
Yaphet Kotto- syncopated synthetic laments for love

Those are some of my favorites

[kgoism]

Metalcore bass is mostly for guitarists who suck and can only play one string at a time instead of strump open powerchords.

With that being said, some sick metalcore/hardcore bands with even sicker bass players:

Protest the Hero

The Fall of Troy (more experimental, I guess)

Dillinger Escape Plan(+1)

Born of Osiris (more deathcore-ish)

The Number 12 Looks Like You (Grindcore)

IWRESTLEDABEARONCE (Grindcore/Hardcore)

...and my band!

Your Requiem

The best generic metalcore you can get

and you can't go wrong with The Devil Wears Prada for traditional metalcore

[sarcastro83]

Circle Jerks, Bad Brains, Dead Kennedys, Black Flag, Fear, D.O.A., etc.

[chrisisnotevil]

how the heck did i miss converge? i'm so dumb...

[Jumbotron]

I don't even know what hardcore means anymore.

[TOOL460002]

+1000000 for between the buried and me. one of the few hardcore bands i enjoy. listen to aesthetic- mordecai- selkies- anything off the alaska album really. and go see them live- theyre incredibly talented and put on a great show.