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09-30-2005, 06:13 PM
|  | Basement Clef | | Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Below Ground, Detroit area | | | The Royal Scam
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It started one day when I heard those late summer bugs. The ones that have that continual reedy sound...like crickets but more sustained.
Then I heard that song..."The Royal Scam", and there's that reedy sounding keyboard throughout the song.
So I go get a Steely Dan collection, being too cheap to buy the whole catalogue. None feature "The Royal Scam" so for another $1.00 I get the album on vinyl. (I'll buy that for a Dollar!)
I musta heard all of these songs a kazillion times when Steely Dan was "gold" on the radio and yet it struck me (only now it seems) how well crafted these recordings are...So well played, entirely POP, with sophistication. (I reminisce...)
I don't even know who the musicians are, but they're good.
Thoughts anyone?
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09-30-2005, 06:17 PM
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Wouldn't you like to know?! | | Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Atlanta | | | "And they wandered in from the city of St. John without a dime."
Dude, Steely Dan is life. The rest is just insignificant stuff!
They had many first call musos play for them. Players like Chuck Rainey, Bernie Purdie, Skunk Baxter, Cornelious Bumpus (RIP), etc.
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09-30-2005, 07:09 PM
| | Basement Clef | | Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Below Ground, Detroit area | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by Woodchuck Dude, Steely Dan is life. The rest is just insignificant stuff!
They had many first call musos play for them. Players like Chuck Rainey, Bernie Purdie, Skunk Baxter, Cornelious Bumpus (RIP), etc. | It would be quite an education to watch these guys lay down studio tracks y'know?
What passes for "pop" these days after what used to be...it hurts.
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09-30-2005, 08:52 PM
|  | C'mon man! | | Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Hawaii | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by P. Aaron
What passes for "pop" these days after what used to be...it hurts.
| Aint that the truth!!! Maybe I'm just old 
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10-01-2005, 06:47 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Mobile, AL | | | "Sign In Stranger" "The Fez" "Everything You Did" .... sighhhh
I can't recall how many times I have copied (legally) "Gaucho" and "The Royal Scam" ... CD's tend to melt here in Alabama!
Honorable mention the the album "Aja" ... learning "Home At Last" and "I Got the News" presently... I'm such a Steely Dan fanatic!
Oops.. I got sidetracked... yes.. Steely Dan, old and new, examplify studio recording. Tight and loose at the same time... awesome stuff...
BTW, I saw the Glass City All-Stars in Toledo, OH a few years back and they all but nailed every Steely Dan/Donald Fagen song I requested. Guess that's why they are a tribute band, huh?
Great stuff...
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10-01-2005, 03:04 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Wichita Falls, Texas | | | I believe those bugs are called cicadas...all over the place in texas. |
10-01-2005, 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Woodchuck They had many first call musos play for them. Players like Chuck Rainey, Bernie Purdie, Skunk Baxter, Cornelious Bumpus (RIP), etc. | Don't forget Larry Carlton, I know he's only a guitar player, but, "Don't Take Me Alive" is still great. |
10-02-2005, 08:21 AM
|  | Faith, Family, Fitness, and Frets | | Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: New Jersey | | | Check out Chuck Rainey's groove on "Kid Charlemagne". Learning that one will keep you busy for weeks!
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10-02-2005, 08:39 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Oak Park, MI | | Dude, Didn't I try to tell you that a couple of months ago? Listen to the Burk  They are among my all time favorite Rock groups
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10-02-2005, 08:55 AM
| | Guest | | Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Toronto ON | | | I love that talk box solo on Haitian Divorce...BTW get the "Citizen" box set. Definitely worth it for hardcore fans. |
10-02-2005, 11:17 AM
| | Basement Clef | | Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Below Ground, Detroit area | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by burk48237 Dude, Didn't I try to tell you that a couple of months ago? Listen to the Burk They are among my all time favorite Rock groups | I've always dug the music, and I heard the songs many, many times. But only recently have I taken to really listening to them and realizing all that went into putting them together.
The craziest thing about a well done song(s)...there's so much to them, and if they're well done, the details can seem so subtle, one can miss them.
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10-02-2005, 02:09 PM
| | C'mon man! | | Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Hawaii | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by P. Aaron It would be quite an education to watch these guys lay down studio tracks | Check out the making of AJA DVD 
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10-02-2005, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by jerry Check out the making of AJA DVD | +1
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10-02-2005, 02:36 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: NET | | | For those of you gentlemen who haven't heard it, may I also recommend the Dan's 2000 comeback album "Two Against Nature". It's all there: fabulous songwriting, beautiful charts, super grooves, great humor, incredible playing. Chris Potter's extended tenor solo on "West Of Hollywood" brings tears to my eyes every time. And I'm still working on Tom Barney's bass part on "Gaslighting Abbie". This is a record that's been on our band boombox in hotel rooms after just about every gig for the last few years. I must've heard it close to a hundred times, and it never fails to move the spirit.
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10-02-2005, 02:41 PM
| | gone to Longstanton Spice Museum | | Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: UK | | quality quality quality - they don't come classier and better crafted than Steely Dan
one thing i've found is that there's no other band to touch Steely Dan for having records you put on at any time of the day for any mood you 're in... their music just fits no matter what... on balance I probably love Frank Zappa's music more than Donald & Walter's, but there has to be a specific time and a place for Frank... the Dan just work 24/7 
purrrrrfection
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10-02-2005, 03:11 PM
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Endorsing artist: Brubaker Guitars | | Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Gaithersburg, Md | | | SD has always been way ahead of the curve as far as production. I know they obsess over everything but it shows in the final product. Everything sits perfectly in the mix. |
10-02-2005, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Brad Johnson SD has always been way ahead of the curve as far as production. I know they obsess over everything but it shows in the final product. Everything sits perfectly in the mix. | Bein' idealistic in wishing today's POP would grow up into something a little less insulting.
Still waitin', but no luck.
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10-03-2005, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by P. Aaron Bein' idealistic in wishing today's POP would grow up into something a little less insulting.
Still waitin', but no luck. | There's actually a lot of decent Pop-type music out there... it's just not as popular as the bigger mainstream stuff and it's a little harder to find. |
10-03-2005, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Commreman Check out Chuck Rainey's groove on "Kid Charlemagne". Learning that one will keep you busy for weeks! | We cover that one. Amazing bass line, it was a bass lesson just learning the song.
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10-03-2005, 10:32 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: conditional upon harmonic Hz | | | Heard Becker/Fagan spent over two years in the studio on one album and got themselves into some pretty serious personal debt. Incredible. Great creators backed by the best studio guys around.
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