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06-10-2012, 01:45 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Lumberton, TX | | | Rush - Seven cities of gold; unplayable?
This song just seems like it's be impossible to cover. Too much of the personalized flair of Geddy... especially the intro. It seems hitting every note, full and ghosts alike, would be a feat. Gettign the tone, even harder. Playing as he does, impossible. Show me a video of you covering it perfectly or agree with me. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5Gn2...ure=plpp_video |
06-10-2012, 01:46 PM
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06-11-2012, 09:22 PM
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06-12-2012, 10:13 AM
| | | I think it is playable but it would take A LOT of skill to pull it off even a little bit of it... (that means I can't even play one note from that song  )
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06-12-2012, 10:18 AM
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The first 30 seconds sound very Primusy, which is convenient since a friend of mine is getting me into Rush and I'm trying to get him into Primus. I think I've got the tougher end of that deal.
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06-12-2012, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by JetBlackJazz Show me a video of you covering it perfectly or agree with me. | Demanding, aren't we? LOL
I think there's a point of diminishing returns. By that I mean it takes 10X as much time to learn the last 20% as it does to learn the first 80%...
Kudos to you for trying it. I think the audience that appreciates it will appreciate it just as much if you get 80% or 95% -- unless they are musicians. And in my town, gig audiences are about 1% musicians  |
06-12-2012, 10:27 AM
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06-12-2012, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by DiabolusInMusic I only got to around a minute, I still have to get that record, but I would not call that unplayable, I have seen plenty of players nail YYZ, this can be done much easier. | Well good luck with that...
Soundclips of attempts anyone? |
06-13-2012, 08:37 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Long Island, New York | | | The beginning of the song and some parts in between could be pulled of with a pick maybe (since Geddy has that Flamenco thing happening). But this whole darn album has a lot going on with the bass lines. Still amazed how thes guys pushed the envelope even further. Simply amazing. |
06-13-2012, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by lijazz The beginning of the song and some parts in between could be pulled of with a pick maybe (since Geddy has that Flamenco thing happening). But this whole darn album has a lot going on with the bass lines. Still amazed how thes guys pushed the envelope even further. Simply amazing. | Exactly |
06-13-2012, 09:12 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Sacramento area | | | The other Rush song that falls into this catergory is Earthshine from the Vapor Trails album. |
06-13-2012, 09:41 AM
| | | | Nothing is unplayable. Guys here have ripped up Nitti, Wooten, Manring etc...Ged isnt even in the category of these guys. |
06-14-2012, 12:15 AM
| | | | Dammit, I wish I had headphones and it wasn't a 2 AM. Still can't imagine it being any harder than YYZ. The entire purpose of YYZ was to be as bat**** crazy as possible. |
06-14-2012, 12:42 AM
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06-14-2012, 02:44 AM
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Originally Posted by DiabolusInMusic I only got to around a minute, I still have to get that record, but I would not call that unplayable, I have seen plenty of players nail YYZ, this can be done much easier. | Agree, even though I find YYZ and most of what Geddy plays "unplayable", well for my part... :-)
But the intro of Seven Cities Of Gold is easier then YYZ. |
06-14-2012, 03:28 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Central Pa. | | | I have never seen Geddy with a pic but I would bet my right nut and $20 that's a pick not fingernails or whatever. I play with a pick and fingers and the attack and everything says pick in that beginning. With a pick that would be pretty simple to do with muting of the left hand and grinding with the right. There is NOTHING wrong with playing with a pick and if indeed that’s what he is doing it’s for the tone and attack.
I know how ridiculous of a killer player he is and knowing him it's just how good he is and how he can get anything out of a bass with his fingers.
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06-14-2012, 04:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Means2nEnd I have never seen Geddy with a pic but I would bet my right nut and $20 that's a pick not fingernails or whatever. I play with a pick and fingers and the attack and everything says pick in that beginning. With a pick that would be pretty simple to do with muting of the left hand and grinding with the right. There is NOTHING wrong with playing with a pick and if indeed that’s what he is doing it’s for the tone and attack.
I know how ridiculous of a killer player he is and knowing him it's just how good he is and how he can get anything out of a bass with his fingers. | It is a studio version, he can try to play this intro 100 times if needed. His flamenco style technique has evolved over the years, so I think he can/ could do it, at least in studio.
I think as you say the attack etc sound like a pick, but still it sound just Geddy's finger style minus fret noise from his flamenco style. The fret/ string sound can be handled in the studio take.
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06-14-2012, 12:47 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NJ via NYC | | | I dont think anything is "unplayable". If you put in the time to break it down, transcribe it and practice it (granted that may be a little while depending on your skill level) it can be done. I saw a rock doc where Neil said after he took time off from playing he had to listen to the recordings to relearn his own licks "exactly".
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06-15-2012, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Bruins29 Nothing is unplayable. Guys here have ripped up Nitti, Wooten, Manring etc...Ged isnt even in the category of these guys. | You're right, because Geddy is better...roight? |
06-15-2012, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Means2nEnd I have never seen Geddy with a pic but I would bet my right nut and $20 that's a pick not fingernails or whatever. I play with a pick and fingers and the attack and everything says pick in that beginning. With a pick that would be pretty simple to do with muting of the left hand and grinding with the right. There is NOTHING wrong with playing with a pick and if indeed that’s what he is doing it’s for the tone and attack.
I know how ridiculous of a killer player he is and knowing him it's just how good he is and how he can get anything out of a bass with his fingers. | Not to bust your postulations, but that's his flamenco technique. He talks about it in some far away interview. | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | 
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