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11-21-2004, 02:24 AM
|  | Analyzer Records Endorsing Artist: Mesa/Boogie - Shop Manager/Tech, SF Guitarworks | | Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA | | | So I guess you've all been wondering what my band sounds like.
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Some of you may know that I joined a band a while back. Well, I put up a few clips, demos, and edits of the things that have been going on, mainly because a few companies that were are endorsed by(!) and record company "people"(!) want to hear some of the preliminary work. I guess that means I can share some of it with you, eh?
This is a little different for me, and all these songs were written long before I joined the band. At this point I'm little more than a hired gun, but I'm slowly starting to find ways to inject some of my personality into it. The plan is to release the first album as is, and the next one will be a fully collaborative effort; i.e., it will be weird as hell if I'm involved.
I've only played bass one the first track so far- all the rest is just the singer with a cheap Ibanez (which actually don't sound too bad). My part has been refined and has become more me than what's recorded, but what the hell. At least I got to squeeze a fretless onto a rock track.
And without further ado: Track 1 (full length demo) Track 3 (edit) Track 4 (edit) Track 9 (instrumental edit) Track 10 (full length demo)
EDIT: I will hopefully some of my own solo (weird) stuff back up on the website soon, for all of you who think I've sold out and forgone my prog geek roots. Patience!
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11-21-2004, 04:21 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Northern CA | | Bass sounds great! At first I was like "turn up the bass!" but then you appeared and slid down to that first low note and I was satisfied.
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11-21-2004, 05:41 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Tampa Bay | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by Benjamin Strange Some of you may know that I joined a band a while back. Well, I put up a few clips, demos, and edits of the things that have been going on, mainly because a few companies that were are endorsed by(!) and record company "people"(!) want to hear some of the preliminary work. I guess that means I can share some of it with you, eh?
This is a little different for me, and all these songs were written long before I joined the band. At this point I'm little more than a hired gun, but I'm slowly starting to find ways to inject some of my personality into it. The plan is to release the first album as is, and the next one will be a fully collaborative effort; i.e., it will be weird as hell if I'm involved.
I've only played bass one the first track so far- all the rest is just the singer with a cheap Ibanez (which actually don't sound too bad). My part has been refined and has become more me than what's recorded, but what the hell. At least I got to squeeze a fretless onto a rock track.
And without further ado: Track 1 (full length demo) Track 3 (edit) Track 4 (edit) Track 9 (instrumental edit) Track 10 (full length demo)
EDIT: I will hopefully some of my own solo (weird) stuff back up on the website soon, for all of you who think I've sold out and forgone my prog geek roots. Patience! | While my computer takes its time with its crappy connection Id like to say that Im really interested in hearing this stuff...
Scratch that, Im listening now.
The bass sounds absolutely massive!
The band really, really, really, really, reminds me of an old local band from Miami called "Twice the Sun." By any chance is the guitarist named Peter? Do you guys have a website?
Kudos on doing what you did for that song. Id probably do more noodling around but Im not sure it would have served the song as much. You not only pulled off using a fretless in that song, but you made the song need the fretless. It sounds perfect in there. Its not really something Id listen to often, but its really good. Its really eerie how much this reminds me of "Twice the Sun."
Just to add something from my experience. I prefer to jump into bands the way you just did. Ive had to many bad experiences trying to put bands together from scratch because Ive found that the guys who arent in bands arent in bands for a reason, and most the guys in bands who are willing to work outside of their band are just plain flaky. All the available guys are trash, and all the guys in bands are the ones I should be dealing with, so I jump into bands and start out by adjusting the feel of the bass parts to the finished songs so they stay more or less the same but have some of my feel to them. Then as more songs are written I start making the basslines totally mine. After some time, I start putting more of my opinion into the songwritting process and try to add some of my flavor to song on more aspects than just the bass part so that I really am part of the band. Its always a lottle weird at first and you dont quite feel like you are part of the band, but after time the band sounds the way they do because of you and you are just as much a part as anyone else. Im sure this weird feeling you have about being a hired gun will go away soon.
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11-21-2004, 05:47 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Gainesville, FL | | | Ben Strange? Doing RADIO ROCK?
It sounds great, your tone is great and the mix is great. If you stuck with this, I think you could go very far. It's familiar but not necessarily a rip off. Very good overall. | 
11-21-2004, 10:49 AM
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11-21-2004, 10:54 AM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Omicron Persei 8 | | | Good stuff, now throw in some Meshuggah poly rhythmic lovelyness on the next album and I'll buy it :0 | 
11-21-2004, 12:47 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: NW Indiana. | | | And you did that on a "cheap Ibanez?" Impressive! That gives me hope with mine. But really, nice sound. Good music. =D
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11-21-2004, 01:00 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Ontario | | | I was part way through the first track and I was all "Where's the bass, yo?"
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Wow.
That is the single biggest bass sound I've ever heard. Massive. EDIT: The parts in track 1 where you're sliding around on the fretless...*drool* It's like some sort of massive industrial engine revving before demolishing everything in its path. Beautiful.
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11-21-2004, 01:34 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Waco, TX | | | You've sold out and forgone your prog geek roots.
But I like it. Nice motobass sound.
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11-21-2004, 02:19 PM
| | | | Wait, is that you singing in track 10?
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11-21-2004, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Brat And you did that on a "cheap Ibanez?" Impressive! That gives me hope with mine. But really, nice sound. Good music. =D | Actually, I did that first track with my modded out Steinberger. The rest is just Paul (singer) putting down basic tracks with an Ibanez.
Thanks for the comments, guys, especially Nick Man. I certainly am becoming more comfortable with my bassist only role that I have so far.
Interesting, I'm actually learning how to become a bass player within this band, which is something new to me. I've always had the band conform to me, and this is the first time I've had to conciously shift my style to match theirs. I'm having to do things like lock in with the drummer (who's feel is TOTALLY different than mine), support the singer, and play the same part consistently, instead of changing it every time the way I normally do. It's certainly a learning experience, and I hope to only get better from here.
Oh, we still don't have a band name. Poopy. | 
11-21-2004, 04:51 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Tampa Bay | | That sounds like what I do everytime I join a band.
Im telling you, just call yourselves Twice the Sun and move to FL. You guys already have a oretty good following here.  They did get signed by Sharon Osborne right before they broke up. | 
11-21-2004, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Benjamin Strange Oh, we still don't have a band name. Poopy. | What happened to Slave engine?
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11-21-2004, 07:08 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2004 Location: Montreal QC CA | | | So I guess I should be buying a Steinberger now.... That's HUGE! NicktheBassist should hear it, might alter his opinion on that nickleback chump. Now I regret never listening to your geek stuff (I'm a big fan of the progy geek rock) | 
11-21-2004, 07:50 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Luis Obispo, CA | | | That last track vaugely reminds me of APC's more non-standard stuff. I liked it. Add more crazy, and we'll be golden. | 
11-21-2004, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by sargebaker So I guess I should be buying a Steinberger now.... That's HUGE! NicktheBassist should hear it, might alter his opinion on that nickleback chump. Now I regret never listening to your geek stuff (I'm a big fan of the progy geek rock) | Well, keep in mind that it's a pretty heavily modded Steinberger through a modded Mesa/Boogie Triaxis, along with some studio trickery from our recording master, Paul. What you hear ain't exactly the natural tone of just the bass.
Come to see us live and I'll let you try it. I imagine we'll be gigging by March.
Slave Engine was kind of poopooed by the other guys in the band. "Sounds too metal", they say. Damnit, these guys are tough on band names! | 
11-21-2004, 08:25 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: The cold part of California | | | Althought I'm never one to listen to this kind of music, it's pretty good stuff | 
11-21-2004, 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Benjamin Strange Well, keep in mind that it's a pretty heavily modded Steinberger through a modded Mesa/Boogie Triaxis, along with some studio trickery from our recording master, Paul. What you hear ain't exactly the natural tone of just the bass.
Come to see us live and I'll let you try it. I imagine we'll be gigging by March.
Slave Engine was kind of poopooed by the other guys in the band. "Sounds too metal", they say. Damnit, these guys are tough on band names! | Where do uou live? don't forget I'm in canada eh  Yeah, I'd try your bass but never actually buy one, not my style but whatever floats it! Hey *temporary hijack* you must like Planet X right? | 
11-22-2004, 09:47 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Edmonton AB | | I heard about a minute and a half of track 1 before the "connection timed out" or some such BS, and I can't really say I like the music, but the bass tone is tha shiznit.  Great sound, and hey I liked the intro! Vocals aren't my cupa tea though. | 
11-22-2004, 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Benjamin Strange Slave Engine was kind of poopooed by the other guys in the band. "Sounds too metal", they say. Damnit, these guys are tough on band names! | Funny, it seems to fit the music (first track anyway, haven't heard the others) like a glove. They must be crazy. | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | |
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