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05-25-2008, 11:59 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Capital District, NY | | | Steely Dan does the UK - an open question to Bruce Lindfield
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Here's my open question to Mr. Lindfield: Let's just suppose that Steely Dan were to break with tradition for the next album and temporarily move to London, using all British musicians to cut their next album. Who would be your ideal all-British lineup for Steely Dan, that is, aside from Donald and Walter?
(Here's my two cents, or ummm.... pence... regarding the rhythm section. I think it would be great to have Simon Phillips on drums and Randy Hope-Taylor on bass. However, I am not familiar enough with the British scene to fill in the other blanks, though a David Gilmour solo would be great!) |
05-25-2008, 12:29 PM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Marathon Man | | | I think it's about time for a Brucey bonus! |
05-25-2008, 12:38 PM
|  | Unprofessional TalkBass Contributor | | Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Brighton, England, UK, Europe | | Funnily enough I saw Tim Garland's Northern Underground Orchestra recently and they were like a very modern Jazz big band - 13/14 piece.
Tim Garland explained how he had set up a commission for young composers to write a new composition arranged for this big group - "in the style of/or influenced by Steely Dan" !
So there were two pieces that the band played and they were both fantastic - I suggest this whole group should do it - no better musical director than Tim Garland anyway!! 
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05-25-2008, 12:41 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Capital District, NY | | | I think that would be a solid tribute to Steely Dan, but I was thinking of an actual Steely Dan record made in London.... |
05-25-2008, 12:42 PM
| | Unprofessional TalkBass Contributor | | Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Brighton, England, UK, Europe | | Here's a bit more about that :
In addition to all this activity, Tim has been running a competition for composers and arrangers under the age of 30.
“The brief was to write something in the style of Steely Dan (the American jazz-rock group). We thought everyone knows what Steely Dan sounds like and they are not unlike the band we’ve got.
“People came up with some really interesting arrangements. We perform two or three of them at every gig.”
Tim says he realises the word jazz is off-putting to some people (the same could be said of all musical genres) but reckons many young audience members have had any preconceptions blown away when they have heard The Northern Underground Orchestra play. Having spent years working with young people on campus, he speaks with authority on this. http://www.journallive.co.uk/culture...1634-19971515/
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05-25-2008, 12:44 PM
| | Unprofessional TalkBass Contributor | | Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Brighton, England, UK, Europe | | Quote:
Originally Posted by ZenderBender  I think that would be a solid tribute to Steely Dan, but I was thinking of an actual Steely Dan record made in London.... | Yup - I would just get this lot in the studio ...
Nobody better thamn Gwilym Simcock on piano/keyboards and Mike Outram Guitar - maybe addd Laurence Cottle on bass...?
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05-25-2008, 12:48 PM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Marathon Man | | | Mark King on the bass (even though Cottle is damn good) and Gary Husband on the drums. Vince Clark doing programming and synths! |
05-25-2008, 12:50 PM
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05-25-2008, 12:52 PM
| | Unprofessional TalkBass Contributor | | Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Brighton, England, UK, Europe | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris2112 Mark King on the bass (even though Cottle is damn good) and Gary Husband on the drums. Vince Clark doing programming and synths! | I think Mark King would be absolutely awful for Steely Dan and there'll be no "programming", thank you!! 
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05-25-2008, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Bruce Lindfield I think Mark King would be absolutely awful for Steely Dan and there'll be no "programming", thank you!! | He'd be amazing! His fingerstyle playing is massively overlooked and massively underrated imo. And imagine them getting John McLaughlin in to play guitars! |
05-25-2008, 01:01 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Capital District, NY | | | Mark King would never be on a Steely Dan record. Now, Andrew Levy.... that could work. |
05-25-2008, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ZenderBender Mark King would never be on a Steely Dan record. Now, Andrew Levy.... that could work. | I'm sure he has better things to do but come on, we can dream!  |
05-25-2008, 01:09 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Capital District, NY | | | but I mean, Mark King? That would be like Eddie Van Halen or Billy Sheehan a Steely Dan record. |
05-25-2008, 01:16 PM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Marathon Man | | | If you don't think Mark King is good for it as a sideman, look up his playing with Midge Ure, Clapton and the drummer from Big Country on "If I was", which was live at (I think) The Princes Trust in '87.
He brings an incredible pulse and groove. Anyone who thinks Mark King is a one trick pony or whatever needs to dig a bit deeper! |
05-25-2008, 06:54 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Capital District, NY | | | Somebody post some links so I can hear these guys. I've never heard of most of them! I guess most of the British scene is simply unknown here in the States.
What are your thoughts on the rhythm section I threw together? |
05-25-2008, 07:23 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Capital District, NY | | | Honestly, John McLaughlin is way too chops-intensive to play guitars in Steely Dan. I don't know who would handle the bulk of the guitar work, but I think David Gilmour could play a great solo or two. Heck, he was spotted at the London Steely Dan show, as was Sir Paul. |
05-25-2008, 09:57 PM
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05-26-2008, 04:47 AM
|  | C'mon man! | | Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Hawaii | | | Paul Turner bass & Richard Bailey drums
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05-26-2008, 05:13 AM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Marathon Man | | Quote:
Originally Posted by ZenderBender Honestly, John McLaughlin is way too chops-intensive to play guitars in Steely Dan. | You think he can't hang fire and play whats asked of him when he needs to? |
05-26-2008, 11:30 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Capital District, NY | | | Actually, maybe he could. I remember hearing that he was a London studio guy before he rose to fame with Tony Williams and Miles. He even played on that "Winchester Cathedral" song. But of course, Jimmy Page was also a London studio guy, and I can't imagine him with the Dan at all. Now, perhaps John Paul Jones might work, and he was also a studio guy. | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | 
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