Tal AND Oteil..

fleabee · #1 12-20-2008, 06:53 PM

Nice clip of the 2- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2idCMAyU5jc

LowRanger · #2 12-20-2008, 10:36 PM

Thanks!

I don't slap/pop, so what's the deal with Tal's sound? Light gage strings played with a heavy touch. She's got a great groove.

Oteil is from another planet. Killer stuff.

Dr. Cheese · #3 12-20-2008, 11:22 PM

That was fun.

NJL · #4 12-20-2008, 11:32 PM

she plays aggressively!! badass!!

oteil's playing on a warwick, pretty cool..

great find

bassrique · #5 12-20-2008, 11:43 PM

That was fun to play along with. Burbridge is BAD.

What holiday party was that? Wish I was there. Looks like there's some more vids of that event, no?

J.Wolf · #6 12-21-2008, 06:13 AM

Christmas Jam, Asheville NC a few days ago

http://www.xmasjam.com/

gregoire1 · #7 12-21-2008, 06:58 AM

Does anyone else find this discouraging?

KJung · #8 12-21-2008, 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LowRanger

Thanks!

I don't slap/pop, so what's the deal with Tal's sound? Light gage strings played with a heavy touch. She's got a great groove.

Oteil is from another planet. Killer stuff.

+1 That's the classic 'heavy touch played close to the neck with ss roundwound' J tone. I totally dig it, and that's just a great example of the Sadowsky J tone with single coils when you really dig in IMO and IME.

Oteil and that scatting way up the neck with a 6 string...not so much

pinkzepphish · #9 12-21-2008, 07:08 AM

i would have either of their babies.

fleabee · #10 12-21-2008, 10:34 AM

Its tough finding Tal clips that aren't with the Jeff Beck tour{no offense to that dynamo}.

rarisgod · #11 12-21-2008, 11:06 AM

That's pretty cool!
I've only seen Tal with a more Jaco-esque sound, so this is interesting.

I'm curious, does she use a Marcus bass or does it just resemble?

KJung · #12 12-21-2008, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rarisgod

That's pretty cool!
I've only seen Tal with a more Jaco-esque sound, so this is interesting.

I'm curious, does she use a Marcus bass or does it just resemble?

I believe it is an NYC Sadowsky MV5 with Sadowsky single coils. That what it sounds like, but that's based on third hand information.

Stereo Joe · #13 12-21-2008, 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KJung

Oteil and that scatting way up the neck with a 6 string...not so much

No love for Oteil in that clip? Man, I absolutely freak when I hear stuff like that. I can't get enough of his phrasing - some of the lines he plays are just so oblique and out there, but he always comes back to center. For me, Oteil is right up there with Patitucci when it comes to soloing. Just out of this world phrasing.

And after listening to Keith Jarret albums, there's no way a little scatting from Oteil will bother me...

KJung · #14 12-21-2008, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stereo Joe

No love for Oteil in that clip? Man, I absolutely freak when I hear stuff like that. I can't get enough of his phrasing - some of the lines he plays are just so oblique and out there, but he always comes back to center. For me, Oteil is right up there with Patitucci when it comes to soloing. Just out of this world phrasing.

And after listening to Keith Jarret albums, there's no way a little scatting from Oteil will bother me...

I respect it for sure, but don't dig it at all. That scatting is like fingernails on a chalkboard to me. I love Patiticci's soloing on the 6. Otiel's sounds like it's from 'wana be guitarist land'. That being said, I totally dig his work with the Allman Brothers.... old school, groovin' bliss. Just personal preference on the 'C string above the 12th fret with humming' thing

onlyclave · #15 12-21-2008, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LowRanger

Thanks!

I don't slap/pop, so what's the deal with Tal's sound? Light gage strings played with a heavy touch. She's got a great groove.

Oteil is from another planet. Killer stuff.

Oteil is from Egypt. Go find the first Col. Bruce Hampton and the Aquarium Rescue Unit CD.

He's probably the greatest bass player alive.

NJL · #16 12-21-2008, 11:41 AM

that's oteil's "voice"

JAUQO III-X · #17 12-21-2008, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onlyclave

Oteil is from Egypt.

That's not true at all. Just a little joke based off the origin of his first name.

Blake Bass · #18 12-21-2008, 11:45 AM

Just my opinion but I'm not digging Tals tone on this. It's too "choked" sounding and twangy. I much prefer to hear the bass played with a lighter touch and more finesse ala Oteil.

MikeBass · #19 12-21-2008, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KJung

I believe it is an NYC Sadowsky MV5 with Sadowsky single coils. That what it sounds like, but that's based on third hand information.

NYC 4 string Ken.
The one Roger gave her.

Man, it's kinda funny, but doesn't Oteil sound the same on a Warwick as he does on his Fodera or did on his Modulus???

NJL · #20 12-21-2008, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeBass

Man, it's kinda funny, but doesn't Oteil sound the same on a Warwick as he does on his Fodera or did on his Modulus???

yeah, totally!! funny, isn't it?

i too sound the same on all my basses: like crap!!